Sep 23, 2026 · 45 min · 14 segments
Australia and the United Kingdom share one of the world's deepest strategic relationships – but in an increasingly contested geopolitical environment, that partnership is taking on new significance…
Brian JonesGuestPhil TarrantHost
Marcus ThompsonHost
just on the flip side of that, my observation, Brian, is that the UK national security agencies and departments are quite open to networking.
But when we completed that merger, you know, it made the strategic decision and it was all based on the commercial reality was that, you know, we chose to become a UK company and domicile in the UK and...
I think we might have spoken about this once because as a patriot, it kind of got under my skin quite a lot.
And now for every today, I think it's something like for every one piece of Pen10 technology used in the Australian national security community, it's something like 15 in the UK.
I'd say as well, this idea of where people make things, the reality of warfare and threat is starting to come back in a physical sense.
So in terms of distributing your supply chain, distributing your storage reliably and geographically to make sure the adversary can't come and take it out all in one go.
You know, we're looking at that with, we had a defence minister over recently looking at that in terms of complex missiles, looking at that in terms of energetics, what we need to move away from Europe into a relatively safe space to get us into a place where we can fight the conflict elsewhere.
a big part of the doctrine of the South Koreans actually build our capability here in Australia as a supply chain redundancy.
just on the flip side of that, my observation, Brian, is that the UK national security agencies and departments are quite open to networking.
But when we completed that merger, you know, it made the strategic decision and it was all based on the commercial reality was that, you know, we chose to become a UK company and domicile in the UK and...
I think we might have spoken about this once because as a patriot, it kind of got under my skin quite a lot.
And now for every today, I think it's something like for every one piece of Pen10 technology used in the Australian national security community, it's something like 15 in the UK.
I'd say as well, this idea of where people make things, the reality of warfare and threat is starting to come back in a physical sense.
So in terms of distributing your supply chain, distributing your storage reliably and geographically to make sure the adversary can't come and take it out all in one go.
You know, we're looking at that with, we had a defence minister over recently looking at that in terms of complex missiles, looking at that in terms of energetics, what we need to move away from Europe into a relatively safe space to get us into a place where we can fight the conflict elsewhere.
a big part of the doctrine of the South Koreans actually build our capability here in Australia as a supply chain redundancy.
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