Just welcome your thoughts or invite your thoughts on that.

The beauty of these sort of complex machines is the variety of trades and skills and experts that go into building them.

And I was talking to some of your sort of ministerial colleagues the other day, and this is really a whole of Australia endeavour.

You know, although they're going to be built in South Australia, obviously Henderson's going to have the maintenance yard.

We're going to need people from each one of the states and territories in some way contributing to this huge endeavor.

So I think that sort of promise of what good work looks like, good, reliable, well-paid work looks like with a demand signal for 100 years and setting in place this level of national ambition.

This is one of the most complex machines known to man.

Your view towards the sort of defence industry here in Australia, what do you think they're doing really, really well and sort of a little bit more than just hang in there? You know, what would you say to them?

Just welcome your thoughts or invite your thoughts on that.

You know, the beauty of these sort of complex machines is the variety of trades and skills and experts that go into building them.

And I was talking to some of your sort of ministerial colleagues the other day, and this is really a whole of Australia endeavour.

You know, although they're going to be built in South Australia, obviously Henderson's going to have the maintenance yard.

We're going to need people from each one of the states and territories in some way contributing to this huge endeavor.

So I think that sort of promise of what good work looks like, good, reliable, well-paid work looks like with a demand signal for 100 years and setting in place this level of national ambition.

This is one of the most complex machines known to man.

really complex field of

Just welcome your thoughts or invite your thoughts on that.

You know, the beauty of these sort of complex machines is the variety of trades and skills and experts that go into building them.

And I was talking to some of your sort of ministerial colleagues the other day, and this is really a whole of Australia endeavour.

You know, although they're going to be built in South Australia, obviously Henderson's going to have the maintenance yard.

We're going to need people from each one of the states and territories in some way contributing to this huge endeavor.

So I think that sort of promise of what good work looks like, good, reliable, well-paid work looks like with a demand signal for 100 years and setting in place this level of national ambition.

This is one of the most complex machines known to man.

really complex field of

Are you witnessing all the different threads being activated on this? So are these problems that are gonna be, that we're at risk of running into down the track because we hadn't been focusing on that while things like design were going ahead?

So the, the creation of these, uh, really big strategic Military capabilities over decades.

We, we tried our best to program those in a way that ensures consistent workforce over time.

But quite often what we've seen over decades is that those things come in peaks and troughs, and as a result, what we're seeing now is a real uptick in the work required in Barrow, and that does require revitalization, uh, of the town of Barrow.

There's a huge amount of government effort going into that.

Um, as you said, in, in basic things like infrastructure, making sure there's enough schools for people, and making Barrow an attractive place to live.

I was born not too far north of Barrow in Cumbria, and it's a beautiful, wet, rugged, rural part of the United Kingdom, and you've got to attract some of the most sort of complex qualified engineers in the world to come there and live and want to work.

But in terms of his political trajectory, I think it's, it's kind of critical, isn't it?