Aug 17, 2026 · 42 min · 18 segments
Hosted by **Phil Goff** and **Chris Finlayson** with special guests **Helen Clark** and **Tracey Martin**, this bonus episode brings together the questions from the live Q&A sessions at both the…
Chris FinlaysonHost
Phil GoffHost
Tracey MartinGuest
in New Zealand political history? And my view, very emphatically, was, uh, one, uh, Sir Robert Muldoon, knighthood bestowed on himself, by the way.

Um, who decided he would wind up the New Zealand superannuation scheme introduced by the Kirk Labor government.

If we had kept that scheme, we wouldn't be debating whether superannuation in New Zealand is sustainable as the baby boom generation goes into retirement.

We would also literally have hundreds of billions of dollars that we would be investing, we would have been investing in New Zealand.

And in fact, I was, uh, just a youngster in the Kandala branch of the National Party, and many mem- ...

I remember the night it was announced, and people were saying to Hugh Templeton, who was then the candidate on the seat known as Karori, "Hugh, I don't like this.

in New Zealand political history? And my view, very emphatically, was, uh, one, uh, Sir Robert Muldoon, knighthood bestowed on himself, by the way.

Um, who decided he would wind up the New Zealand superannuation scheme introduced by the Kirk Labor government.

If we had kept that scheme, we wouldn't be debating whether superannuation in New Zealand is sustainable as the baby boom generation goes into retirement.

We would also literally have hundreds of billions of dollars that we would be investing, we would have been investing in New Zealand.

And in fact, I was, uh, just a youngster in the Kandala branch of the National Party, and many mem- ...

I remember the night it was announced, and people were saying to Hugh Templeton, who was then the candidate on the seat known as Karori, "Hugh, I don't like this.
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