Jul 1, 2026 · 58 min · 16 segments
**In this deeply vulnerable and spiritually honest episode, Ashley welcomes Lisa Rowell—host of the *Silent Footprints Podcast* and founder of Julianna Grace Ministry—for a conversation that moves…
Lisa RowellGuest
Ashley OpligerHost
And I'm just so amazed and inspired by everything that you've done in memory of Juliana and I just want to acknowledge everything that you walked through as a child.

And I could see how the enemy would use that kind of childhood to plant these seeds, like you said, that you're not loved, that you're not chosen, and how as you would walk through further trials, I think that's when Satan really tries to reinforce those core wounds that we believe, those negative beliefs about ourselves, about God.

And, you know, when you lost your daughter, that was the perfect time for him to reinforce, see, God doesn't love you.

And as you said so vulnerably, and thank you for sharing about the mental health struggles that you walk through and suicidal thoughts, because the enemy was like, this is how.


And I reinforce that wound to the point of complete hopelessness, that you feel there's no other option.

And praise God for the Holy Spirit that was in you, that spoke to you and gave you truth in that moment to bring you back to life and for you to make a different choice.

But I just want to say thank you for being vulnerable, because I think so many of us have struggled with really dark and hard thoughts in grief.

And so I just want to acknowledge that and I also wanted to say for our audience who's listening about everything that Lisa's doing in Louisiana and the different bills that she's having passed, I wanted to say when you were talking, I was just thinking, wouldn't it be amazing if the Lord raised up more Lisas in all of these different states, right? Because you can't do it in every state.

But look at the difference that you're making in Louisiana for so many people.

And I think about in my home state of Kansas, we did receive a stillbirth certificate for Bridget because she was born after 20 weeks.

And I don't know who helped pass that bill before Bridget was born, but someone did because it wasn't always that way that after 20 weeks that you would receive a stillbirth certificate.

And so I think, There was some faithful person that was walking this road before me that put that into place.

And I'm just so amazed and inspired by everything that you've done in memory of Juliana and I just want to acknowledge everything that you walked through as a child.

And I could see how the enemy would use that kind of childhood to plant these seeds, like you said, that you're not loved, that you're not chosen, and how as you would walk through further trials, I think that's when Satan really tries to reinforce those core wounds that we believe, those negative beliefs about ourselves, about God.

And, you know, when you lost your daughter, that was the perfect time for him to reinforce, see, God doesn't love you.

And as you said so vulnerably, and thank you for sharing about the mental health struggles that you walk through and suicidal thoughts, because the enemy was like, this is how.


And I reinforce that wound to the point of complete hopelessness, that you feel there's no other option.

And praise God for the Holy Spirit that was in you, that spoke to you and gave you truth in that moment to bring you back to life and for you to make a different choice.

But I just want to say thank you for being vulnerable, because I think so many of us have struggled with really dark and hard thoughts in grief.

And so I just want to acknowledge that and I also wanted to say for our audience who's listening about everything that Lisa's doing in Louisiana and the different bills that she's having passed, I wanted to say when you were talking, I was just thinking, wouldn't it be amazing if the Lord raised up more Lisas in all of these different states, right? Because you can't do it in every state.

But look at the difference that you're making in Louisiana for so many people.

And I think about in my home state of Kansas, we did receive a stillbirth certificate for Bridget because she was born after 20 weeks.

And I don't know who helped pass that bill before Bridget was born, but someone did because it wasn't always that way that after 20 weeks that you would receive a stillbirth certificate.

And so I think, There was some faithful person that was walking this road before me that put that into place.
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