Oct 5, 2026 · 53 min · 21 segments
Adam Frank has spent his career examining the possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Now he turns his gaze to the question of just how intelligent AI can be. Frank thinks most of…
Evan DawsonHost
I have to have a brief interjection to say that when you use the term tech bros, that's a term that I used recently on Twitter, X, and Perry Metzger, who has worked in tech for a long time, told me that that is a form of bigotry, using the term tech bros, and that I ought not use it.

I responded by saying, "I actually think there's a very specific definition and application." [laughs]
I mean te- I mean the, the richest of the rich, the, you know, this handful of men, you know, who are, who dominate this industry, who have wealth, that we allowed wealth to accumulate at this scale for these men, you know, these guys, um, you know, w- is, will, I think is one of the greatest mistakes in the organization of society.
And these are, you know, there's like, you know, we can name them, right? You know, whatever.
Um, and that, uh, you know, they pretty much control the dialogue and the debate and the action that's happening on this.

I have to have a brief interjection to say that when you use the term tech bros, that's a term that I used recently on Twitter, X, and Perry Metzger, who has worked in tech for a long time, told me that that is a form of bigotry, using the term tech bros, and that I ought not use it.

I responded by saying, "I actually think there's a very specific definition and application." [laughs]
I mean te- I mean the, the richest of the rich, the, you know, this handful of men, you know, who are, who dominate this industry, who have wealth, that we allowed wealth to accumulate at this scale for these men, you know, these guys, um, you know, w- is, will, I think is one of the greatest mistakes in the organization of society.
And these are, you know, there's like, you know, we can name them, right? You know, whatever.
Um, and that, uh, you know, they pretty much control the dialogue and the debate and the action that's happening on this.
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