Aug 26, 2026 · 46 min · 12 segments
Chrisa Zindros wanted to be an archaeologist. She never became one, and in a sense she never stopped being one either. She grew up in Waterbury, Connecticut, the daughter of immigrant parents who…
Chrisa ZindrosGuest
Raymond LeeHost
I love the visual of the $12 coffee and you're walking to your office because... you know, at that moment, it's like you were at the top of your game and you had, had accomplished so much.

And I could just feel the sense of pride that you had in your work and your brand and, and where you've evolved to in your career.

And, and the fact like this whole storytelling is, is so fitting for me because like you just told this beautiful story around how you've grown in this industry.

And I love how you articulated that because I feel like There's so many people who in their own job, in their own career, have curated a similar sort of career path.

And they have those moments where they're sitting somewhere and they see something.

And then you felt like, OK, what's next? But then oftentimes people are like, well, I invested so much.

And so they keep continuing on and they may be like, oh, I'm just going to go to work and continue on and get the next promotion and just keep working toward this thing.

What's next? And it's just interesting how you described you at the pinnacle of your career.

And you ask that question, that simple question, what's next? And then it's like, it's time to curate a new story.

You know, what's funny is I said to you in the beginning, I wanted to be the person that named the colors.

And I remember one of my very first jobs when I was taking on more like consumer experience, I walked into the colored closet of this like beautiful office building, uh, in Manhattan and it was like every color and like beautiful threads and fabrics.

And part of my job was to go figure out what was the theme of the collection and how we were going to name some of these colors alongside designers.

But later on, when I was starting to get frustrated and irritated, I'm like, how many times am I going to name the color pink? Carnation pink? Light pink? Like, it's pink.

I love the visual of the $12 coffee and you're walking to your office because... you know, at that moment, it's like you were at the top of your game and you had, had accomplished so much.

And I could just feel the sense of pride that you had in your work and your brand and, and where you've evolved to in your career.

And, and the fact like this whole storytelling is, is so fitting for me because like you just told this beautiful story around how you've grown in this industry.

And I love how you articulated that because I feel like There's so many people who in their own job, in their own career, have curated a similar sort of career path.

And they have those moments where they're sitting somewhere and they see something.

And then you felt like, OK, what's next? But then oftentimes people are like, well, I invested so much.

And so they keep continuing on and they may be like, oh, I'm just going to go to work and continue on and get the next promotion and just keep working toward this thing.

What's next? And it's just interesting how you described you at the pinnacle of your career.

And you ask that question, that simple question, what's next? And then it's like, it's time to curate a new story.

You know, what's funny is I said to you in the beginning, I wanted to be the person that named the colors.

And I remember one of my very first jobs when I was taking on more like consumer experience, I walked into the colored closet of this like beautiful office building, uh, in Manhattan and it was like every color and like beautiful threads and fabrics.

And part of my job was to go figure out what was the theme of the collection and how we were going to name some of these colors alongside designers.

But later on, when I was starting to get frustrated and irritated, I'm like, how many times am I going to name the color pink? Carnation pink? Light pink? Like, it's pink.
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