Chatham House podcast specials
Sep 14, 2026 · 24 min · 8 segments
'Washington would compel its allies in Europe and in Asia and everywhere apart from China to get on board with its regulatory regime \[for AI],' says Sebastian Mallaby, author of 'The Infinity…
I think you asked also a different part of the question, which is how would an American self-regulatory body or some kind of American initiative gain collaboration from the rest of the world? And what I'm going to say here is very unpopular in Europe.
But actually, the European or British interest here is that there should be good regulation.
And if it comes through force coordination from Washington, I'm okay with that personally.
The reason why the US could successfully compel the rest of the world is that it produces most of the AI stack.
The chip designs, the actual data centers, most of the models, apart from the Chinese ones, are in America.
And therefore, it's sort of like, you know, we've run this experiment many times before.
I mean, when the Biden administration imposed semiconductor export controls on China, the Dutch firm ASML and its counterparts in Japan that are important for the ship export ban to be enforced, you know, the Japanese and the Dutch didn't like it, but they had to go along with the American leadership.
And this is just an old story in the way that America operates in the world.
There is the longtime anti-communist hawk who always was against China and said you can't do anything with them.
And that second camp felt totally burnt by Xi Jinping and his, you know, shift to authoritarianism.
I think you asked also a different part of the question, which is how would an American self-regulatory body or some kind of American initiative gain collaboration from the rest of the world? And what I'm going to say here is very unpopular in Europe.
But actually, the European or British interest here is that there should be good regulation.
And if it comes through force coordination from Washington, I'm okay with that personally.
The reason why the US could successfully compel the rest of the world is that it produces most of the AI stack.
The chip designs, the actual data centers, most of the models, apart from the Chinese ones, are in America.
And therefore, it's sort of like, you know, we've run this experiment many times before.
I mean, when the Biden administration imposed semiconductor export controls on China, the Dutch firm ASML and its counterparts in Japan that are important for the ship export ban to be enforced, you know, the Japanese and the Dutch didn't like it, but they had to go along with the American leadership.
And this is just an old story in the way that America operates in the world.
There is the longtime anti-communist hawk who always was against China and said you can't do anything with them.
And that second camp felt totally burnt by Xi Jinping and his, you know, shift to authoritarianism.
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