The Unknowable AI Bet
AI investment faces two unsettling possible futures.
Sep 18, 2026 · 42 min · 17 segments
This week, Chanticleer columnists James Thomson and Anthony Macdonald try and sort out whether AI is actually going to kill us all, they take you in what might be the biggest ASX float in Australian…
James ThomsonHostAnd on Thursday, Immigration Minister Tony Burke announced a series of long-awaited changes to Australia's migration policy, reducing the total intake from about 292,000 at present to 245,000 this financial year and to 225,000 by 2028.
James, that's still much higher than what the coalition wants and what One Nation wants.
And on Tuesday, a migrant weighed in, Nuno Matos, the Portuguese CEO of ANZ, who we love here on the Strontically podcast.
He told the AFR's Asia Summit that we need to be more businesslike in the way we think about migration.

He pointed out that the population is actually going to be, in 2030, 2031, is going to be 700,000 less than it was predicted to be before the pandemic.

And then he brought it back to the economy, which I think was rational pragmatism that certainly Nuno Matos was talking about on Tuesday.

Matos made the point that open borders haven't worked in Europe, but we don't have open borders here.

Matos' other point was we need to be more practical in the way that we think about immigration.

He did admit that housing is still trying to catch up to the recent boom in population that we've had post the pandemic.
And on Thursday, Immigration Minister Tony Burke announced a series of long-awaited changes to Australia's migration policy, reducing the total intake from about 292,000 at present to 245,000 this financial year and to 225,000 by 2028.
James, that's still much higher than what the coalition wants and what One Nation wants.
And on Tuesday, a migrant weighed in, Nuno Matos, the Portuguese CEO of ANZ, who we love here on the Strontically podcast.
He told the AFR's Asia Summit that we need to be more businesslike in the way we think about migration.

He pointed out that the population is actually going to be, in 2030, 2031, is going to be 700,000 less than it was predicted to be before the pandemic.

And then he brought it back to the economy, which I think was rational pragmatism that certainly Nuno Matos was talking about on Tuesday.

Matos made the point that open borders haven't worked in Europe, but we don't have open borders here.

Matos' other point was we need to be more practical in the way that we think about immigration.

He did admit that housing is still trying to catch up to the recent boom in population that we've had post the pandemic.
Every episode on Radar is fully transcribed, speaker-labeled, and rich with metadata. Here is a taste of this one. Try Radar for free to see the rest.
3 of 6
The Unknowable AI Bet
AI investment faces two unsettling possible futures.
The AI Regulation Stunt
The biggest AI companies are demanding regulation.
A $50 Billion Leap
Australia's biggest float rests on enormous assumptions.
+3 more clips · 5 min 27 sec of audio in all
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
All 6 clips — the highlight moments, each cut as its own audio, with a title and a speaker
All 17 segments — the transcript broken into labeled sections, every ad read marked
All 25 topics — jump to every other episode discussing the same subject
Every related episode — other shows Radar links to this one
No account is needed to search Radar.