Sep 14, 2026 · 31 min · 14 segments
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All right.
So, [chuckles] so that was a lot to kind of, um, like process, 'cause basically they went over all the, um, uh, results and stuff.
But some of the main points I really wanna highlight is, like, a lot of these, uh, point styles, so like I tell you, like Olympic-style judo, I think is not enough, and that's why you have big-time judo people like, say, was it Ishii going to train jujitsu? I think he trains at Kingsway or New Way, or Kingsway probably.
Um, but anyway, so what I mean by Olympic-style judo is not enough is because a lot of times they will not continue because, say like if you get a, a throw, a takedown, they will let the person go or they'll roll over them and kind of roll through and not continue the wrestling, not go for the pin.
So that type of thing is n-not necessarily penalized, but you don't get points.
You don't get credit for it.
So they were talking of earlier about the whole idea is like if you get a takedown, if you throw someone down, you have to follow them down, continue the wrestling, uh, so that, uh, you can then get the point.
So you must be thinking about...
Well, I would say you must be thinking about it in a wrestling way or a catch wrestling way, sp- more catch wrestling because, uh, you know, you want to be attacking the person for submissions and not just thinking about holding them to get points.
Because, uh, a lot of us know that, uh, the first half of each match, regardless of the time, uh, the time limit, so whether...
Say like a lot of times their open tournaments will be only six minutes.
Uh, uh, and so the first three minutes will be no points, but you can get negative points, right? So you can't be pulling guard and all that.
So you must continue to grapple, right? So that's why sometimes when I see videos online of people doing like foot, like judo foot sweeps and, you know, they're allow...
They're throwing the person, they're, they're throwing the person down, and they're allowing them to kind of roll away or stay flat on their back or whatever.
That's just not gonna cut it.
It just doesn't cut it, um, even in catch wrestling.
So Uh, those are my two cents, right? So you got to follow through.
You got all these different things are in catch wrestling as well.
So ultimately catch wrestling would be the, still the ideal style to, uh, to, uh, like implement, but in a authentic catch wrestling way, right? So that being said, it's like a wrestling heavy, wrestling oriented way that is attacking for control and submission because, you know, of course there's no pins, but you've got to be continuing the, the action, right? So you can't be thinking about points with regards to your attack and stuff.
So, um, in that way it becomes closer to a catch wrestling match in that there are no points and you have to continue to, uh, if you're in a bad position, you got to fight your way out.
You don't just roll or you don't just fall back and then just face the person.
If you actually react in a wrestling way, if you're taken down backwards, you, say if it's really fast and you will, your back will hit the mat, but you must instantly try to roll your, like turn yourself over, right? Belly down, try to build up your base.
That is what is a wrestling reaction to a takedown.
And that is what is, uh, like, like given, like basically you don't give your opponent points if they take you down, right? So that's one of the bigger aspects that I really like about ADCC rules.
Um, I don't think that it will necessarily change the way jujitsu is done because ADCC has its own rule set.
All right.
So, [chuckles] so that was a lot to kind of, um, like process, 'cause basically they went over all the, um, uh, results and stuff.
But some of the main points I really wanna highlight is, like, a lot of these, uh, point styles, so like I tell you, like Olympic-style judo, I think is not enough, and that's why you have big-time judo people like, say, was it Ishii going to train jujitsu? I think he trains at Kingsway or New Way, or Kingsway probably.
Um, but anyway, so what I mean by Olympic-style judo is not enough is because a lot of times they will not continue because, say like if you get a, a throw, a takedown, they will let the person go or they'll roll over them and kind of roll through and not continue the wrestling, not go for the pin.
So that type of thing is n-not necessarily penalized, but you don't get points.
You don't get credit for it.
So they were talking of earlier about the whole idea is like if you get a takedown, if you throw someone down, you have to follow them down, continue the wrestling, uh, so that, uh, you can then get the point.
So you must be thinking about...
Well, I would say you must be thinking about it in a wrestling way or a catch wrestling way, sp- more catch wrestling because, uh, you know, you want to be attacking the person for submissions and not just thinking about holding them to get points.
Because, uh, a lot of us know that, uh, the first half of each match, regardless of the time, uh, the time limit, so whether...
Say like a lot of times their open tournaments will be only six minutes.
Uh, uh, and so the first three minutes will be no points, but you can get negative points, right? So you can't be pulling guard and all that.
So you must continue to grapple, right? So that's why sometimes when I see videos online of people doing like foot, like judo foot sweeps and, you know, they're allow...
They're throwing the person, they're, they're throwing the person down, and they're allowing them to kind of roll away or stay flat on their back or whatever.
That's just not gonna cut it.
It just doesn't cut it, um, even in catch wrestling.
So Uh, those are my two cents, right? So you got to follow through.
You got all these different things are in catch wrestling as well.
So ultimately catch wrestling would be the, still the ideal style to, uh, to, uh, like implement, but in a authentic catch wrestling way, right? So that being said, it's like a wrestling heavy, wrestling oriented way that is attacking for control and submission because, you know, of course there's no pins, but you've got to be continuing the, the action, right? So you can't be thinking about points with regards to your attack and stuff.
So, um, in that way it becomes closer to a catch wrestling match in that there are no points and you have to continue to, uh, if you're in a bad position, you got to fight your way out.
You don't just roll or you don't just fall back and then just face the person.
If you actually react in a wrestling way, if you're taken down backwards, you, say if it's really fast and you will, your back will hit the mat, but you must instantly try to roll your, like turn yourself over, right? Belly down, try to build up your base.
That is what is a wrestling reaction to a takedown.
And that is what is, uh, like, like given, like basically you don't give your opponent points if they take you down, right? So that's one of the bigger aspects that I really like about ADCC rules.
Um, I don't think that it will necessarily change the way jujitsu is done because ADCC has its own rule set.
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