Jul 28, 2026 · 34 min · 13 segments
One call ended Jack Oujo's dream of reaching the major leagues. After spending eight years as a professional baseball umpire, he was released just short of the top level. Instead of letting rejection…
Jack OjoGuestSammy PetersonHostSo Jack, you spent eight years grinding through professional baseball as an umpire, won the Joe Ryan Award as the top umpiring prospect in the country, and then baseball said no.

Uh, w- when you're going through the minor leagues, you realize that there's always that possibility.

I was thinking, I could feel sorry for myself for the rest of my life, or I could try to, uh, kick some butt and, and try to have a second career.

And my wife and I sat down, and we literally made a long-term plan that involved a lot of education.

I don't know how many 30-year-old accountants they hire with eight years in the minor leagues, but they hired me.

And then because of the pa- I was self-aware of the pain I was going through with the release, and I decided to engross myself in education at night and on weekends.
So Jack, you spent eight years grinding through professional baseball as an umpire, won the Joe Ryan Award as the top umpiring prospect in the country, and then baseball said no.

Uh, w- when you're going through the minor leagues, you realize that there's always that possibility.

I was thinking, I could feel sorry for myself for the rest of my life, or I could try to, uh, kick some butt and, and try to have a second career.

And my wife and I sat down, and we literally made a long-term plan that involved a lot of education.

I don't know how many 30-year-old accountants they hire with eight years in the minor leagues, but they hired me.

And then because of the pa- I was self-aware of the pain I was going through with the release, and I decided to engross myself in education at night and on weekends.
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