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Building the Game

Building the Game

Episode 733: Fighting Unchecked Corruption Keeps Institutions Compassionately Equitable

Jun 14, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min · 10 segments

Jason Chats with Joe Kell and Kyle Cushman.

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Speakers: Joe KellGuestKyle CushmanGuestJasonHost

Top entities: Jane McAlevey×3 Game×2 Operation Metro Surge×3 Kyle Cushman×29 Minneapolis×8

Show signals: SuitabilitySafeBiasNot politicalAudience≈2k followers

School, Parenting, and a Book Club0:41 – 6:34

J

JasonHost

0:41

How's it going?

Kyle CushmanGuest

0:43

Good, good.

Kyle CushmanGuest

0:44

Thank you for the invite.

J

JasonHost

0:45

Yeah, yeah.

J

JasonHost

0:47

I did just invite Joe, and then Joe was like, you should bring Kyle.

J

JasonHost

0:50

Actually, I had a re-intention of inviting you, but I just reached out to Joe first because I'm friends with Joe on Discord.

J

JasonHost

0:56

We can be friends, you

Kyle CushmanGuest

0:58

know.

J

JasonHost

0:58

Sounds good.

J

JasonHost

0:59

Then I'll invite you next time.

J

JasonHost

1:00

We'll just ditch Joe.

J

JasonHost

1:01

That sounds awesome.

J

JasonHost

1:02

And Joe can be my plus

1:02

one.

1:03

Yeah,

J

JasonHost

1:04

that's

1:04

fine.

1:05

That's fine.

1:07

Well,

J

JasonHost

1:08

hey, how are y'all doing?

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:12

Great.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:13

I mean, today was the last day of work school.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:18

I teach for a living, elementary, special ed.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:21

Love it.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:22

But I'm also on top of working full time, full time grad school at night.

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School, Parenting, and a Book Club0:41 – 6:34

J

JasonHost

0:41

How's it going?

Kyle CushmanGuest

0:43

Good, good.

Kyle CushmanGuest

0:44

Thank you for the invite.

J

JasonHost

0:45

Yeah, yeah.

J

JasonHost

0:47

I did just invite Joe, and then Joe was like, you should bring Kyle.

J

JasonHost

0:50

Actually, I had a re-intention of inviting you, but I just reached out to Joe first because I'm friends with Joe on Discord.

J

JasonHost

0:56

We can be friends, you

Kyle CushmanGuest

0:58

know.

J

JasonHost

0:58

Sounds good.

J

JasonHost

0:59

Then I'll invite you next time.

J

JasonHost

1:00

We'll just ditch Joe.

J

JasonHost

1:01

That sounds awesome.

J

JasonHost

1:02

And Joe can be my plus

1:02

one.

1:03

Yeah,

J

JasonHost

1:04

that's

1:04

fine.

1:05

That's fine.

1:07

Well,

J

JasonHost

1:08

hey, how are y'all doing?

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:12

Great.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:13

I mean, today was the last day of work school.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:18

I teach for a living, elementary, special ed.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:21

Love it.

Kyle CushmanGuest

1:22

But I'm also on top of working full time, full time grad school at night.

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