Aug 25, 2026 · 47 min · 22 segments
As protests against the Dakota Access Pipeline began to grow in North Dakota, a new seemingly grassroots Facebook page emerged. In this episode we meet the hired gun behind it, Robert Rice, who was…
Amy WesterveltHost
James ForrestGuest
Valerie EagleshieldGuest
Doug HillyGuestI'm a reporter working on a story related to the protests back in 2016 and 2017 against the Dakota Access Pipeline.
And some guys at Rusty's Tavern said that you would be a good person to talk to.
This past spring, some guys at a bar in Morton County, North Dakota, told me that if I wanted to understand the impact the Standing Rock movement had on nearby communities, I should call up the rancher Doug Hilly.
Doug lives on a dead-end road, and part of the Dakota Access pipeline route runs nearby.
There was a group, an out-of-state car, somebody sitting in the back seat with a The strangers wouldn't answer many questions.
And they said, are you going to make us? I said, no, but my friend here and I raised my rifle will probably help me.
A group of protesters blocked a school bus from taking their normal route.
A grandma and her grandkids hid in a safe room for four hours because they were worried about protesters.
The new traffic made it difficult for Doug and people he knew to drive semi-trucks loaded with hay down narrow country roads.
I and several other people just got in the habit that we carried weapons for personal protection with us.
I'm a reporter working on a story related to the protests back in 2016 and 2017 against the Dakota Access Pipeline.
And some guys at Rusty's Tavern said that you would be a good person to talk to.
This past spring, some guys at a bar in Morton County, North Dakota, told me that if I wanted to understand the impact the Standing Rock movement had on nearby communities, I should call up the rancher Doug Hilly.
Doug lives on a dead-end road, and part of the Dakota Access pipeline route runs nearby.
There was a group, an out-of-state car, somebody sitting in the back seat with a The strangers wouldn't answer many questions.
And they said, are you going to make us? I said, no, but my friend here and I raised my rifle will probably help me.
A group of protesters blocked a school bus from taking their normal route.
A grandma and her grandkids hid in a safe room for four hours because they were worried about protesters.
The new traffic made it difficult for Doug and people he knew to drive semi-trucks loaded with hay down narrow country roads.
I and several other people just got in the habit that we carried weapons for personal protection with us.
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The Outsiders Behind the Movement
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How Propaganda Deepens Divisions
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