Jul 4, 2026 · 45 min · 13 segments
In this episode, psychologist and bestselling author Fiona Murden explores why identity—not skills—may be our greatest challenge in the age of AI. We discuss resilience, identity coherence…
Fiona MurdenGuest
Brad HookHost
believe ourselves to be where our worth is, how we understand ourselves so that that disruption doesn't send us completely off course, but allows us to grow and to adapt and to change.

But I think it's an opportunity that people reach sometimes through major life transitions.

So it might usually be reached through something like a bereavement, divorce, retirement.

And AI is forcing the questions that people would normally face at those times.

So if we think about those times in life that I think most of us have encountered where we feel like we've suddenly lost our way or something's been pulled from under us because life has changed in some way, whether that's been expected or unexpected.

I think the practical risk is en masse looking at a lot of people who are feeling that.

If you talk about a work environment, well-being suffers, stress increases, burnout increases.

And then I think from the perspective of really needing people to understand how to tap into what we call human capabilities.

And at the moment, a lot of organizations are saying, hey, we need human skills, which I think is fantastic because, you know, these are the things that I've been arguing for for years.

believe ourselves to be where our worth is, how we understand ourselves so that that disruption doesn't send us completely off course, but allows us to grow and to adapt and to change.

But I think it's an opportunity that people reach sometimes through major life transitions.

So it might usually be reached through something like a bereavement, divorce, retirement.

And AI is forcing the questions that people would normally face at those times.

So if we think about those times in life that I think most of us have encountered where we feel like we've suddenly lost our way or something's been pulled from under us because life has changed in some way, whether that's been expected or unexpected.

I think the practical risk is en masse looking at a lot of people who are feeling that.

If you talk about a work environment, well-being suffers, stress increases, burnout increases.

And then I think from the perspective of really needing people to understand how to tap into what we call human capabilities.

And at the moment, a lot of organizations are saying, hey, we need human skills, which I think is fantastic because, you know, these are the things that I've been arguing for for years.
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