Aug 6, 2026 · 22 min · 12 segments
For almost forty years, Jerry Marzinsky worked the front lines of severe mental illness. State hospitals. Maximum security prisons. Emergency rooms. He was trained to believe schizophrenia is nothing…
Jerry MarzinskyGuest
Luke RodgersHost
Nate HenryHostThird HostHost
You know? So the medical system in, in the United States was taken over back in 1910, okay? It's been that long.
So, um, in 1910, the Carnegie Foundation and the Rockefeller group sponsored the infamous Flexner Report, which shut down any medical school teaching subjects outside of mainstream pharmacology.
So it was so powerful that only a few medical schools survived, such as John Hopkins and McGill, and a handful of others connected with these groups.
They were the only schools who could legally license doctors to, to practice, uh, and it, it had to be pharmacology, okay? If they did anything else, they were th- they were threatened with their license.
So in 1910, they actually took over the medical system, and big pharma moved in from that point, and it's been under their control since then.
So any articles that are printed against big pharma, they, you know, any school that puts that out, they find that their, uh, uh, what do you call, their funding dries up.
And, and, you know, they teach you there that, you know, your, your specialty, as we were talking before, is really working with people with schizophrenia.
So there, you're told in school and in, and in, and in clinic, I imagine, this is just a, a chemical imbalance, um, in people's brains.
But when did that, when did that narrative begin to, like, to crack for you? Um, when did you start to, when did you start to sort of conclude that maybe something else was going on-
... uh, as opposed to it just being, you know, a chemical reaction in folks' brains or an imbalance?
You know? So the medical system in, in the United States was taken over back in 1910, okay? It's been that long.
So, um, in 1910, the Carnegie Foundation and the Rockefeller group sponsored the infamous Flexner Report, which shut down any medical school teaching subjects outside of mainstream pharmacology.
So it was so powerful that only a few medical schools survived, such as John Hopkins and McGill, and a handful of others connected with these groups.
They were the only schools who could legally license doctors to, to practice, uh, and it, it had to be pharmacology, okay? If they did anything else, they were th- they were threatened with their license.
So in 1910, they actually took over the medical system, and big pharma moved in from that point, and it's been under their control since then.
So any articles that are printed against big pharma, they, you know, any school that puts that out, they find that their, uh, uh, what do you call, their funding dries up.
And, and, you know, they teach you there that, you know, your, your specialty, as we were talking before, is really working with people with schizophrenia.
So there, you're told in school and in, and in, and in clinic, I imagine, this is just a, a chemical imbalance, um, in people's brains.
But when did that, when did that narrative begin to, like, to crack for you? Um, when did you start to, when did you start to sort of conclude that maybe something else was going on-
... uh, as opposed to it just being, you know, a chemical reaction in folks' brains or an imbalance?
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