Jul 15, 2026 · 51 min · 11 segments
What if the secret to growing your audiology practice had nothing to do with marketing, and everything to do with purpose? Lisa Earlel McLeod is the author of the bestselling book Selling with Noble…
Lisa Earle McLeodGuest
Kevin St. ClergyHost
What led me to write the book was the idea that we can separate these two lanes of money and meaning has not served us well in business.

know, some of the frustrations we hear from anybody in medical, I just did a big engagement with a podiatry group, is that they're all being pushed to be business people.

When in fact, what the research tells us is if business people could act more like caring professionals, they would actually make more money.

But I mean, it's crazy because when they say, oh, we're being pushed to be more business people, what they mean is we're being pushed to care less.

It needs to be to some degree profitable enough to pay your people and go home at night and have a place to lay your head.

But the over-indexing on the money actually strips away the very thing that makes what you do special.

In sales, I was a sales trainer, I was a VP of sales, and I was a VP of sales for a sales training company.

What led me to write the book was the idea that we can separate these two lanes of money and meaning has not served us well in business.

know, some of the frustrations we hear from anybody in medical, I just did a big engagement with a podiatry group, is that they're all being pushed to be business people.

When in fact, what the research tells us is if business people could act more like caring professionals, they would actually make more money.

But I mean, it's crazy because when they say, oh, we're being pushed to be more business people, what they mean is we're being pushed to care less.

It needs to be to some degree profitable enough to pay your people and go home at night and have a place to lay your head.

But the over-indexing on the money actually strips away the very thing that makes what you do special.

In sales, I was a sales trainer, I was a VP of sales, and I was a VP of sales for a sales training company.
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