Oct 16, 2026 · 37 min · 13 segments
Professor Ian Plimer joins Jeremy Cordeaux in the studio with a five-ounce gold nugget from his own small North Queensland mine and his seventeenth book, Gold, Everything You Need to Know, which is…
Ian PlimerGuest
Jeremy CordeauxHost
John BruniGuest
And what it's really saying is that the value of money has gone down and we are buying less for our money.

He was absolutely gobsmacked after he'd had his 28 years of travel and had been to Cathay, China.

And he was gobsmacked that people would give up their gold, their gemstones and their pearls to the state and in return they'd get a piece of mulberry bark that was stained in different sizes and colours for each denomination and signed by the Kublai Khan.

And he couldn't believe how stupid people were giving up real wealth for a piece of mulberry bark.


We had a situation where Treasurer Peter Costello sold our gold and sold a few hundred tonnes of it.

And what did he do with the money? Well, the money was to be invested in yen and Deutsche Mark bonds.


And what it's really saying is that the value of money has gone down and we are buying less for our money.

He was absolutely gobsmacked after he'd had his 28 years of travel and had been to Cathay, China.

And he was gobsmacked that people would give up their gold, their gemstones and their pearls to the state and in return they'd get a piece of mulberry bark that was stained in different sizes and colours for each denomination and signed by the Kublai Khan.

And he couldn't believe how stupid people were giving up real wealth for a piece of mulberry bark.


We had a situation where Treasurer Peter Costello sold our gold and sold a few hundred tonnes of it.

And what did he do with the money? Well, the money was to be invested in yen and Deutsche Mark bonds.

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