69. E69 with Pierro Lunaire - Investigating life with the lens of music and human connections

Yeah, I guess, um, transformation is, um, is, uh, what I'm actually looking for by doing all these things.

Like, uh, um, that's basically, um, my motivation to, to travel and to explore music is to explore the potential of transformation within that.

Um, and, uh, I think for me, multicultural interactions, um, create a space for transformation because we can, um ...

I think it's, it's, it's two m- two movements, is first, um, understanding what is your cultural frame through the mirror of the other, and, and allowing yourself to also step out of your cultural frame and y- on your, um, kind of your, uh, conditioning.

And the second thing is also to observe, um, different way of doings, different way of thinking, different way of seeing the world, and, uh, sometime resonating with, uh, with this, these things, with resonating with ideas, resonating with, um, with visions, resonating with dreams, and taking inspiration from that to also update what's your, what is your own worldview, what is your own beliefs, um, what is your own, um, value system.

And I think that's, um, movement is, uh, creates a very strong potential for transformation and, um, and by transformation, I mean a transformation towards a version of yourself that is, um, that feels more comfortable, that feels more aligned with, um, with, I guess your, um, your deeper, um, being, your soul or whatever you wanna call it.

Um, so for me as an artist, uh, I want to explore this area.

I want to explore it for myself, but I want to explore it also for, um, a wider community.

I want to, to explore that not just to, for my own needs, but also I believe for, um, social need as well.

And I want to also, uh, be able to share that, um, potential of transformation, of self-transformation to my surroundings, to my, um, culture, to my, all the people I can actually.

Like, it's, uh, I think it's the, it's, um, the meaning I find in, in being an artist and doing all these things.

So the, the different project that I've been doing in Aotearoa also reflect that.

Um, I think with the, within the, the, the Sound Journey project, for example, um, it was about exploring how music can create, um, different state of mind, can create, um, a journey into, uh, inner thoughts- Um, and how music can, uh, actually bring this potential transformation, um, together with, uh, with guided meditation, with words.

Um, that's, uh, also the ...

I guess Blend is also, um, a, a reflection of that in another way.

But, um, it's, uh, an event based on improvisation, and I believe improvisation is very related to exploration, and it's a collective improvisation, so we explore, um, our way to connect.

And it's a very multicultural event, um, that took place because, um, I guess as an artist, I, I also absorb what is in my surrounding.

I observe, um, what is b- what is there, what I feel could, um, make sense, um, in a s- specific environment.

And I think Blend made a lot of sense in the environment of, um, of Tāmaki Makaurau because of the, the multicultural aspect of the city, which is amazing.

Um, people from Pacific, Asia, Europe, South America.

Um, so it's a, it's a beautiful scenario to explore multicultural interactions, and, um, and that event was, uh, specifically made to create a space for int- that interaction to happen through music.

'Cause I also believe, as I was telling you before, that music evolve, uh, within a space where there is no, mm, words needed, and that we can, we can, can actually communicate through the part of ourself that is just human and doesn't really, uh, belong to any culture, even though what we offer musically is very cultural.

But that space is to explore how culturally we can also find each other within music.

So it was quite interesting.

And, um, um, and that also for me is, is, um, this event belong to the city more than it belongs to me, you know? It's because it makes more sense for the city than it makes sense for me, and it's just, uh, I think as an artist is the, um, the vision maybe is what, uh, define an artist, and then the artist is just, like, bringing actions, uh, so something can, uh, take form and, and be born within this physical world.