So I wonder how much inspiration you have noticed that even by spending time in this country that has the beauty of being multicultural, so also allowing us to be connected with, uh, so many m- more people than just, like, let's say, the locals, whether they are New Zealanders or Māori, um, has impacted you to, to shape and transform the way that maybe you were thinking before to the way that you move towards this new version of you based on those inspiration, um, that were around you.

Yeah, I guess, um, transformation is, um, is, uh, what I'm actually looking for by doing all these things.

Like, uh, um, that's basically, um, my motivation to, to travel and to explore music is to explore the potential of transformation within that.

Um, and, uh, I think for me, multicultural interactions, um, create a space for transformation because we can, um ...

I think it's, it's, it's two m- two movements, is first, um, understanding what is your cultural frame through the mirror of the other, and, and allowing yourself to also step out of your cultural frame and y- on your, um, kind of your, uh, conditioning.

And the second thing is also to observe, um, different way of doings, different way of thinking, different way of seeing the world, and, uh, sometime resonating with, uh, with this, these things, with resonating with ideas, resonating with, um, with visions, resonating with dreams, and taking inspiration from that to also update what's your, what is your own worldview, what is your own beliefs, um, what is your own, um, value system.

And I think that's, um, movement is, uh, creates a very strong potential for transformation and, um, and by transformation, I mean a transformation towards a version of yourself that is, um, that feels more comfortable, that feels more aligned with, um, with, I guess your, um, your deeper, um, being, your soul or whatever you wanna call it.

And when I'm considering also on the aspect that you share about culture, how music bring people together despite of the background maybe that we have, uh, and how that has, um, in a way also shape us but also giving us an opportunity to see and reflect on other, uh, people's, um, stories and other people tradition, I wonder what has been your learning, um, in terms of the indigenous culture of this country, um, and so your curiosity towards the Maori culture and how that has given you a deeper understanding or in terms of the connection with music, mm, coming from this standing point, if there is something that might have been important or relevant or very curious for you to discover.