Aug 27, 2026 · 48 min · 12 segments
Send us Fan Mail My guest today is Jillian Forsberg, author of *The Porcelain Menagerie*, listed in the Decorative Arts category on Art In Fiction…
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And, and they didn't ha- they didn't know how to do it, right? 'Cause you talked a lot-

One of them is local to me, so I was able to see some of his work and actually, you know, talk to him about how this process works.

But the other one, her name is Trisha Zimmick, and she was invited to Meissen to exhibit her porcelain monkeys.

So I wanted to talk to someone who made animals and who had been to Albrechtsberg to display their work, so that was a fascinating conversation.

But what they have the advantage of that you don't have in the 1700s is electricity.

And they also didn't have the right bed of clay until about 10 years into the process, and they found one in the mountains of Germany that is still held secret today.

When I was in Albrechtsberg, I asked them, "Where's, where is that bed of clay that you get all this stuff from?" And they were like, "We cannot tell you-"

So there's still things held in secret, but Chinese porcelain, I, I did a lot of research on that too.


And, and they didn't ha- they didn't know how to do it, right? 'Cause you talked a lot-

One of them is local to me, so I was able to see some of his work and actually, you know, talk to him about how this process works.

But the other one, her name is Trisha Zimmick, and she was invited to Meissen to exhibit her porcelain monkeys.

So I wanted to talk to someone who made animals and who had been to Albrechtsberg to display their work, so that was a fascinating conversation.

But what they have the advantage of that you don't have in the 1700s is electricity.

And they also didn't have the right bed of clay until about 10 years into the process, and they found one in the mountains of Germany that is still held secret today.

When I was in Albrechtsberg, I asked them, "Where's, where is that bed of clay that you get all this stuff from?" And they were like, "We cannot tell you-"

So there's still things held in secret, but Chinese porcelain, I, I did a lot of research on that too.

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