Elizabeth Holmes' Husband Billy Evans: The Trial, Prison & Nathan Fielder's Documentary

There was this period of time when everyone talked about Elizabeth Holmes being manipulative-

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in wearing the turtleneck, and talking with a deep voice, and having this kind of character that she played, where the idea was, if she's playing a character for everyone else around here, you know, clearly she's playing a character all the time, and that might be the origin of the, the fraud, of the, the manipulation.

I think there's a lot of things that have been said about that, and some of them, I think if you just look back, like, with as much clarity as you can muster, um, and try and disassociate, like, Elizabeth Holmes from the situation as much as possible.

If you just say it, like, some of it's pretty crazy.

You know, like, that she would manipulate people with her big blue eyes, and that her deep voice would immediately have people give her, you know, $100 million.

I mean, it's incredibly sexist, one.

Um, but yeah, I mean, I've read a lot of this stuff.

Would you say that about a man?

No, you would never say that about a man.

You know, Liz would have a meeting with somebody, like, I'll, I'll not insert name here, but think, like, one of the biggest family offices on Earth.

It would be a 45-minute meeting.

They'd commit $100 million by the end of the meeting, and any guy that did that, people would say, "Wow, what an incredible ability to tell a story.

What an incredible ability to have deep conviction in the thing that you believe in, that this person wants to support your mission and your vision." And when it's Liz, it's, "Wow, she fleeced that person in 45 minutes."

Okay.

Um, but then there are these stories about things that were misrepresented.

The machine does this, and then it doesn't do that.

And again, I don't want to litigate the case.

But was there any experience you had where Elizabeth stretched the truth, where she was kind of pushing the boundaries, where the imagination in her mind maybe became the reality?

That's a good question.

Where the imagination became the reality.

Liz is somebody who, like, so deeply believes, and until you've met somebody like her, it's really hard to understand what that's like.

Um, but I think a lot of the things that are kind of most litigated in the press at least, and most described, uh, this is not, like, the machinations of a woman, of a single person.

This was hundreds of employees working tirelessly for 16 years to solve a really difficult problem.