All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Sep 22, 2026 · 18 min · 11 segments
(0:00) Welcome Blake Scholl! (5:11) Solving the sonic boom & legalizing supersonic flight (7:59) The pivot to powering data centers (10:38) Jason joins: data center demand, private jets & what…
In 1969, we landed on the Moon and we flew an airliner through the sound barrier.
Yet more than half a century later, we can't go to the Moon and we can't fly faster than the speed of sound.
By the way, we have interns born after the last time Boeing launched a new airplane in 2004.
But imagine, imagine an alternate timeline in which innovation in flight had continued.
The idea that somebody with nothing more than a pilot's license could do something about this seemed laughable.
In 2015, I pitched my old big boss, Jeff Bezos, on Boom's seed round, and he passed.
[smacks lips] And then he wrote this in the 2015 Amazon shareholder letter: "There are certain things that only large companies can do.
No matter how good an entrepreneur you are, you're not gonna build an all-composite airliner in your garage startup, not one that you'd wanna fly on anyway." [audience laughing] I took that a little personally.
That's, that is in fact a supersonic airliner mockup made from cardboard, plywood, and seats from Office Depot.
And fast-forward to last year and Boom became the first private company ever to build a supersonic jet.
[audience applauding] Something that the big companies would've put thousands of people on, we did with just 50 really dedicated men and women.
And my favorite part was the pictures that people started sending me from classrooms.
[audience applauding] Some of them stood up, and some of them even jumped up and down.
[audience laughing] Isn't that great? One of those is a future chief engineer, I guarantee it.
In 1969, we landed on the Moon and we flew an airliner through the sound barrier.
Yet more than half a century later, we can't go to the Moon and we can't fly faster than the speed of sound.
By the way, we have interns born after the last time Boeing launched a new airplane in 2004.
But imagine, imagine an alternate timeline in which innovation in flight had continued.
The idea that somebody with nothing more than a pilot's license could do something about this seemed laughable.
In 2015, I pitched my old big boss, Jeff Bezos, on Boom's seed round, and he passed.
[smacks lips] And then he wrote this in the 2015 Amazon shareholder letter: "There are certain things that only large companies can do.
No matter how good an entrepreneur you are, you're not gonna build an all-composite airliner in your garage startup, not one that you'd wanna fly on anyway." [audience laughing] I took that a little personally.
That's, that is in fact a supersonic airliner mockup made from cardboard, plywood, and seats from Office Depot.
And fast-forward to last year and Boom became the first private company ever to build a supersonic jet.
[audience applauding] Something that the big companies would've put thousands of people on, we did with just 50 really dedicated men and women.
And my favorite part was the pictures that people started sending me from classrooms.
[audience applauding] Some of them stood up, and some of them even jumped up and down.
[audience laughing] Isn't that great? One of those is a future chief engineer, I guarantee it.
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