Oct 13, 2026 · 50 min · 10 segments
My guests are **Mike Kinsella** and **Steve Lamos** of American Football, whose band put out their fourth self-titled LP earlier this year. We discuss being rewritten into a history they weren’t part…
Justin CoxHost
Mike KinsellaGuest
And, and, and to that end, like I remember hearing that and, and it kind of, it kind of hits you as like, there's something deeply human and inhuman and whisper, like it just takes you somewhere.
And I remember then going to like my dad who listened to like, he listened to like Jackson Brown and these singer songwriter types and, and him being like, I don't know, he didn't know anything about it, you know? And I, I think like we're kind of accidentally talking about what happened with the first American football record that I would actually say, it's like, it's not doing the same thing as Nick Drake, but it, maybe there's something, would you, could you say there's something about like whatever innocence or lack of something that exists in like a lack of attention or notoriety or success that you kind of can't like, you can't really pin down.
But so if you play those first two, 30 seconds of of that first lp it never meant like i think it it accomplishes the like wait what the fuck is going on here what is this especially if you can't slot it you
mean it was it was it's i've always said it's like it was you can't recreate how you know naive we were and how earnest the naivety was it was like you know and i think that that part resonates with different generations of different kids sort of discovering music like there's an authenticity You know, it's riddled with mistakes and it's riddled with voice cracks and it's riddled with sort of.
So, you know, it resonates that people keep finding and they keep speaking them, I guess.
It was no strategy to it, but it just happened that the disappearing, plus early internet CD burning culture, plus the way that the album cover got taken up and could be memed and stuff easily, all that fit together.
Is he ever going to reference that other thing? There was a whole sort of like...
It was like this weird, and then people could kind of write whatever they wanted to into it.
Both Corey and Garzon are part of the touring party and really part of the band at this point.
Both of them mentioned that they actually heard this for the first time on burn CDs.
Like it was like a thing that, that, you know, and they're what, like mid thirties or even late thirties at this point, both those guys, maybe even 40 or something, the technology plus the whatever kind of cultural history at that moment.
mixed with the fact that we didn't say anything about this was ended up just being this weird recipe for like mystery or something.
You know what I mean? It was totally unintentional, like the farthest thing from anybody's mind.
And, and, and to that end, like I remember hearing that and, and it kind of, it kind of hits you as like, there's something deeply human and inhuman and whisper, like it just takes you somewhere.
And I remember then going to like my dad who listened to like, he listened to like Jackson Brown and these singer songwriter types and, and him being like, I don't know, he didn't know anything about it, you know? And I, I think like we're kind of accidentally talking about what happened with the first American football record that I would actually say, it's like, it's not doing the same thing as Nick Drake, but it, maybe there's something, would you, could you say there's something about like whatever innocence or lack of something that exists in like a lack of attention or notoriety or success that you kind of can't like, you can't really pin down.
But so if you play those first two, 30 seconds of of that first lp it never meant like i think it it accomplishes the like wait what the fuck is going on here what is this especially if you can't slot it you
mean it was it was it's i've always said it's like it was you can't recreate how you know naive we were and how earnest the naivety was it was like you know and i think that that part resonates with different generations of different kids sort of discovering music like there's an authenticity You know, it's riddled with mistakes and it's riddled with voice cracks and it's riddled with sort of.
So, you know, it resonates that people keep finding and they keep speaking them, I guess.
It was no strategy to it, but it just happened that the disappearing, plus early internet CD burning culture, plus the way that the album cover got taken up and could be memed and stuff easily, all that fit together.
Is he ever going to reference that other thing? There was a whole sort of like...
It was like this weird, and then people could kind of write whatever they wanted to into it.
Both Corey and Garzon are part of the touring party and really part of the band at this point.
Both of them mentioned that they actually heard this for the first time on burn CDs.
Like it was like a thing that, that, you know, and they're what, like mid thirties or even late thirties at this point, both those guys, maybe even 40 or something, the technology plus the whatever kind of cultural history at that moment.
mixed with the fact that we didn't say anything about this was ended up just being this weird recipe for like mystery or something.
You know what I mean? It was totally unintentional, like the farthest thing from anybody's mind.
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