Sep 23, 2026 · 28 min · 9 segments
Access all podcast transcripts here: https://ablr360.com/category/videos-podcasts/ In this episode of Access Granted, Mike Iannelli sits down with Alan Hejl, founder and lead accessibility consultant…
Alan HejlGuest
Mike IannelliHost

But even then, you see the value of the transportation, but I never even thought about the accessibility of it.

How does it work and how are things really progressing in your opinion moving on from the, hey, this thing can... stay within the barriers and autobrake versus, hey, we've got autonomous vehicles driving around town, picking people up, bringing them to work, taking them places.

Maybe to preface it with another small advocacy story that it's another building block that led to me understanding the future of mobility was to go back to a ride share experience we had.

And then a second one pulled up, rolled down their window and said that the wheelchair couldn't get in his vehicle because it would get his car dirty.

And then as soon as he pulled up, I threw all of our bags in and then she came out.

But then we found out who is this for? Is it including everybody in this vision of it's a multi-billion dollar industry.

Yet they excluded people with disabilities from the start and even still today struggle with its policies of anyone who uses a service dog.


But even then, you see the value of the transportation, but I never even thought about the accessibility of it.

How does it work and how are things really progressing in your opinion moving on from the, hey, this thing can... stay within the barriers and autobrake versus, hey, we've got autonomous vehicles driving around town, picking people up, bringing them to work, taking them places.

Maybe to preface it with another small advocacy story that it's another building block that led to me understanding the future of mobility was to go back to a ride share experience we had.

And then a second one pulled up, rolled down their window and said that the wheelchair couldn't get in his vehicle because it would get his car dirty.

And then as soon as he pulled up, I threw all of our bags in and then she came out.

But then we found out who is this for? Is it including everybody in this vision of it's a multi-billion dollar industry.

Yet they excluded people with disabilities from the start and even still today struggle with its policies of anyone who uses a service dog.
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