Sep 29, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
**Ella Jane** joins 10 Minute Album to talk about her latest EP, **Sparkwheel**, and the stories, experiences and ideas behind the record. We chat about songwriting, creativity, production, life as an…
Ella JaneGuestPhilipHostTouched on a few things I want to follow up on, but first of all, it feels like your music catalog is sort of split pre-marginalia and after, because of a few reasons, you know, you fulfilled your label deal, you parted ways with some members of your team, and then, like you say, you chose to express your sexuality much more publicly and explicitly.
Was an artistic and a personal reckoning for you? And then being independent, talk to me a bit about that.
What does being indie mean to you beyond, you know, the budget constraints maybe?
I think like all the outrage about, you know, nepho babies and everything I think really speaks to, to how strange it is.
I mean, I even, you know, feel like some of that's not entirely warranted because it's so much more of like a systemic issue than an individual thing where it's like, you know, if I had endless resources, yeah, I'd be, I'd be going after everything I want.
And I think something that's been cool about being independent is like, I mean, you know, given what I have and I'm already coming from a privileged position where it's like, You know, if I really needed help, my parents would be there to help me.
And even the fact that someone in my position where I'm not forced to like, you know, I have a home to move to if I can't live in L.A. anymore.
even to be someone in that position and still be struggling so much and be working two jobs.
It's a very difficult industry to break through because we're all kind of so held hostage by these algorithms.
But I think on the other hand, there is kind of like a forced creativity that comes with those constraints, like budget and platform.
It's like there is this hunger in me to want to figure out how to reach everyone i possibly can and it's definitely frustrating but i do think that like being able to not have to answer to a label um and be able to like post whatever i want whenever i want and experiment like if something fails like there's no repercussions other than like maybe i'll get a little embarrassed but um i think i'm really trying to take advantage of this freedom you know
Yeah, I mean, you came on the scene when you were like, what, 18? So it only makes sense that you get to experiment.
It's good that in this form, this structure that you're given now, you can.
I think it's really important.
And if I may say so, you're doing some great numbers on streaming with this album, with this EP, which, I mean, props to you.
You've done a great job, you know, talking about it, telling everyone about it.
And the music speaks for itself as well.
Yeah.
But the industry, you were pushing so hard from the beginning to promote yourself.
A little while ago, you posted a TikTok in the car.
Touched on a few things I want to follow up on, but first of all, it feels like your music catalog is sort of split pre-marginalia and after, because of a few reasons, you know, you fulfilled your label deal, you parted ways with some members of your team, and then, like you say, you chose to express your sexuality much more publicly and explicitly.
Was an artistic and a personal reckoning for you? And then being independent, talk to me a bit about that.
What does being indie mean to you beyond, you know, the budget constraints maybe?
I think like all the outrage about, you know, nepho babies and everything I think really speaks to, to how strange it is.
I mean, I even, you know, feel like some of that's not entirely warranted because it's so much more of like a systemic issue than an individual thing where it's like, you know, if I had endless resources, yeah, I'd be, I'd be going after everything I want.
And I think something that's been cool about being independent is like, I mean, you know, given what I have and I'm already coming from a privileged position where it's like, You know, if I really needed help, my parents would be there to help me.
And even the fact that someone in my position where I'm not forced to like, you know, I have a home to move to if I can't live in L.A. anymore.
even to be someone in that position and still be struggling so much and be working two jobs.
It's a very difficult industry to break through because we're all kind of so held hostage by these algorithms.
But I think on the other hand, there is kind of like a forced creativity that comes with those constraints, like budget and platform.
It's like there is this hunger in me to want to figure out how to reach everyone i possibly can and it's definitely frustrating but i do think that like being able to not have to answer to a label um and be able to like post whatever i want whenever i want and experiment like if something fails like there's no repercussions other than like maybe i'll get a little embarrassed but um i think i'm really trying to take advantage of this freedom you know
Yeah, I mean, you came on the scene when you were like, what, 18? So it only makes sense that you get to experiment.
It's good that in this form, this structure that you're given now, you can.
I think it's really important.
And if I may say so, you're doing some great numbers on streaming with this album, with this EP, which, I mean, props to you.
You've done a great job, you know, talking about it, telling everyone about it.
And the music speaks for itself as well.
Yeah.
But the industry, you were pushing so hard from the beginning to promote yourself.
A little while ago, you posted a TikTok in the car.
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