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Stephen Flower

Stephen Flower

Director and Head of London Office at Black Cat Building Consultancy, chartered building surveyor (MRICS) with 30+ years' experience.

Oct 8, 2026

5:44
Yeah.
5:44
And while you were doing the day release, you got to do some, some stuff.
5:47
And, you know, quite often I did it pretty, pretty badly, [laughs] I think.
5:51
But the point was you, you got to do stuff.
5:54
It was quite benign, supportive environment.
5:56
You were allowed to get on with stuff.
5:58
If you, if you made a mistake, you didn't get shot for it.
7:28
... it's become more difficult to produce the same thing
26:03
So it's about trying to form a sensible, practical view, isn't
26:06
it? I go back to what you just said about me.
26:10
If you get to lawyers, you failed.
26:13
Because you just described a case where it was, what was it, a six-figure case and you went to seven-figure fees, that kind of thing.
26:21
Well, nobody's won there.
26:23
The only people that have won are the lawyers.
26:24
Right.

18 MINS LATER

43:55
5839, if
25:08
It's surprising how brief you become when you have to write it, don't you? Yeah.
25:11
Yeah, there you go.
25:13
I can still remember the first commercial building survey I ever wrote.
25:17
And I'd trained in local authority.
25:19
And I got my first job working for a private practice.
25:22
And I was given a building survey to go and get an office building in London somewhere.
25:26
And I agonized.
26:28
But you're probably so desperate to impress, you were putting all sorts of things in there that were...
25:33
Surprising how brief you become when you have to write it, don't you? Yeah.
25:36
Yeah, there you go.
25:38
I can still remember the first commercial building survey I ever wrote.
25:42
And I'd trained in local authority.
25:44
And I got my first job working for a private practice.
25:47
And I was given a building survey to go and get an office building in London somewhere.
25:51
And I agonized.
27:23
about that thick.

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