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The Mishnah says, uh, as we have had, uh, earlier, the f-- the, the beginning of the Perek.
So is that a din l'chatchilah or deb'dieved? So the Mishnah tells us, [speaking foreign language] What if, uh, somebody that they do chalitz in front of two, or even in front of three, even if [speaking foreign language] and then one of them proves to be, you know, a karov apostale, a relative or apostle.
[speaking foreign language] There was a story that there was a chalitzah took place in private.
[speaking foreign language] was machshir, uh, the chalitzah, even though it was not done in front of edim, it was just done privately between the chalitz and the, um, and the chalutza.
Uh, the, the Korban Eidah here quotes, it's really a Rashi, but says, [speaking foreign language] if one is found to be karov apostale, therefore it's not...
So what might you have said? It's no good because now you don't have three judges.
Well, how many do you have? How many do you have if one of them is found to be karov apostale? So Rashi says, "Well, it adds up.
One of them is knocked out, so you have two." And that's what the Korban Eidah says, [speaking foreign language] That's a quote from Rashi.
Uh, the Acharonim all jump on Rashi and say, "Really? If you have three and one is problematic, you got two left? Don't we have a principle of [speaking foreign language]? Don't we have a principle that if one of the group is, is ruined, the whole group is ruined?" [speaking foreign language] So yes, that's a principle by Eidim in the Gemara, by the witnesses.
Do you have that principle by Dayanim? Do you say that principle by judges also, that if you have a group of judges, [speaking foreign language] so this Rashi is quoted as a raya that you do not.
You do not say it by judges 'cause Rashi says, "But favorish, if one of them is ruined, so then you still have two." You should say you have zero.
So the Rashash, uh, on that Rashi here, on Daf Kof Daled in the Bavli, uh, argues, if you look in the Ksos, the Ksos in Simon Lamid Vav.
The Mishnah says, uh, as we have had, uh, earlier, the f-- the, the beginning of the Perek.
So is that a din l'chatchilah or deb'dieved? So the Mishnah tells us, [speaking foreign language] What if, uh, somebody that they do chalitz in front of two, or even in front of three, even if [speaking foreign language] and then one of them proves to be, you know, a karov apostale, a relative or apostle.
[speaking foreign language] There was a story that there was a chalitzah took place in private.
[speaking foreign language] was machshir, uh, the chalitzah, even though it was not done in front of edim, it was just done privately between the chalitz and the, um, and the chalutza.
Uh, the, the Korban Eidah here quotes, it's really a Rashi, but says, [speaking foreign language] if one is found to be karov apostale, therefore it's not...
So what might you have said? It's no good because now you don't have three judges.
Well, how many do you have? How many do you have if one of them is found to be karov apostale? So Rashi says, "Well, it adds up.
One of them is knocked out, so you have two." And that's what the Korban Eidah says, [speaking foreign language] That's a quote from Rashi.
Uh, the Acharonim all jump on Rashi and say, "Really? If you have three and one is problematic, you got two left? Don't we have a principle of [speaking foreign language]? Don't we have a principle that if one of the group is, is ruined, the whole group is ruined?" [speaking foreign language] So yes, that's a principle by Eidim in the Gemara, by the witnesses.
Do you have that principle by Dayanim? Do you say that principle by judges also, that if you have a group of judges, [speaking foreign language] so this Rashi is quoted as a raya that you do not.
You do not say it by judges 'cause Rashi says, "But favorish, if one of them is ruined, so then you still have two." You should say you have zero.
So the Rashash, uh, on that Rashi here, on Daf Kof Daled in the Bavli, uh, argues, if you look in the Ksos, the Ksos in Simon Lamid Vav.
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