Wander Your Way: Europe Travel Your Way
Sep 1, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 13 segments
What if traveling more slowly isn’t about how much time you have, but how you choose to use that time? In this episode, I’m joined by Renee Hannes of Dream Plan Experience to talk about slow travel…
Renee HannesGuestLynne NiemanHostAnd I know that that's something that you and I both really believe in, you know, and, and as somebody who also, you know, you're planning trips for folks, you know, you're helping people plan out itineraries.
You know, most people in places like the US and Canada, Canada might get, I don't know, you guys might get a little bit more time off than we do.
So how, like, what are some of the tips or some of the suggestions that you have for people who maybe do only have two weeks, maybe 10 days, two weeks in a certain place, you know, how do you get them to slow down? What are, what are suggestions and tips that you would offer out?

Yeah, I think that because I say it's, you know, it's the art or the practice of, it's not something that you can just say, okay, I'm going to slow travel on this trip.

This, this way of traveling has been you know, something I've kind of always done, but I've always perfected it with every trip as well, right? So there's been lots of times where, you know, first of all, I would have traveled only to a week for a place or two weeks to a place when I was working, you know, for many years, I only had that two weeks that I could kind of give up.

And, you know, the other week was for family time or whatever it happened to be.

So I never have kind of viewed travel as it's the length of time that you have to be in a place.

me, it's more about how are you going to approach that place while you're there? And so I really feel it's kind of the mindset that you have before you go and travel to that destination.

And the mindset really is about being intentional, right? Being intentional with what do you want to do or how do you want this trip to feel? So when I kind of talk to clients or even when I'm planning it for myself, I really think about it's knowing yourself and it's knowing your interests and letting your interests kind of guide what you want to do on your trip and maybe where you want to go and the type of trip you want to have.

Because when you're doing that, you're not just randomly picking a destination because you think everybody has to go to Rome and that's just a place that you need to go and see.

But you're actually kind of thinking, OK, why is it that I want to go to Rome? Like, what is it that's drawing me there? other than kind of the social media pressure of it's a beautiful city, historic city that, you know, everyone has to see in their lifetime.

But, you know, when you're kind of choosing your next destination, it's maybe being more intentional about what is it that you like to get out of that trip.

So it could be very much focused on one trip being about you know, learning history or learning the culture.

And so then you're focused on that time around what are those things that I'm going to do while I'm there that I'm interested in that drew me to Rome.

So you're not kind of going there just with this long checklist of, okay, I'm going to Rome.
And I know that that's something that you and I both really believe in, you know, and, and as somebody who also, you know, you're planning trips for folks, you know, you're helping people plan out itineraries.
You know, most people in places like the US and Canada, Canada might get, I don't know, you guys might get a little bit more time off than we do.
So how, like, what are some of the tips or some of the suggestions that you have for people who maybe do only have two weeks, maybe 10 days, two weeks in a certain place, you know, how do you get them to slow down? What are, what are suggestions and tips that you would offer out?

Yeah, I think that because I say it's, you know, it's the art or the practice of, it's not something that you can just say, okay, I'm going to slow travel on this trip.

This, this way of traveling has been you know, something I've kind of always done, but I've always perfected it with every trip as well, right? So there's been lots of times where, you know, first of all, I would have traveled only to a week for a place or two weeks to a place when I was working, you know, for many years, I only had that two weeks that I could kind of give up.

And, you know, the other week was for family time or whatever it happened to be.

So I never have kind of viewed travel as it's the length of time that you have to be in a place.

me, it's more about how are you going to approach that place while you're there? And so I really feel it's kind of the mindset that you have before you go and travel to that destination.

And the mindset really is about being intentional, right? Being intentional with what do you want to do or how do you want this trip to feel? So when I kind of talk to clients or even when I'm planning it for myself, I really think about it's knowing yourself and it's knowing your interests and letting your interests kind of guide what you want to do on your trip and maybe where you want to go and the type of trip you want to have.

Because when you're doing that, you're not just randomly picking a destination because you think everybody has to go to Rome and that's just a place that you need to go and see.

But you're actually kind of thinking, OK, why is it that I want to go to Rome? Like, what is it that's drawing me there? other than kind of the social media pressure of it's a beautiful city, historic city that, you know, everyone has to see in their lifetime.

But, you know, when you're kind of choosing your next destination, it's maybe being more intentional about what is it that you like to get out of that trip.

So it could be very much focused on one trip being about you know, learning history or learning the culture.

And so then you're focused on that time around what are those things that I'm going to do while I'm there that I'm interested in that drew me to Rome.

So you're not kind of going there just with this long checklist of, okay, I'm going to Rome.
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