The Psychological Threat of Climate Change

There's always lots to think about whenever we have any episode, Jan, about how we feel about what's being spoken about.

This episode has been all about how we feel.

Absolutely.

And I was really taken by a phrase that Nadine used, which was breaking well.

So if we are, and I sometimes think of this myself, if we are in free fall, the best thing I can do is to make the landing as safe and as soft and as...

the best standing that you can have for a system that's in the process of breaking.

And it's also interesting to hear how lots of people will be feeling things or having emotions and reactions to what's happening with the climate and not necessarily realise that this is their body, their mind reacting to that particular thing, that sometimes you have a reaction and without consciously deciding that's what your reaction is going to be.

And I tell you what, it made me feel much more sympathy for people who are in climate denial, who I don't always feel warm and sympathetic towards.

But if there's something inside of you, and without even realising it, that you just sort of push back this knowledge and information from the outset, then that's kind of fascinating that that happens.

Because denial isn't necessarily a logical thing that happens in your head, right? It has other elements to it, including just emotionally thinking.

It's hard to think that we're collapsing this planet.

I mean, it's a really hard thing to be thinking actually this is real.

Yes, there might be some people who are purposefully denying it.

they might have a reason for doing it but there might be other people who are in climate denial because of that they're not doing it to be contrarian or anything like that they're just doing it for reasons that are beyond the easily understood on the surface