Oct 15, 2026 · 34 min · 9 segments
We know language is key to getting the message across on climate change, nature and biodiversity loss, and tackling global tipping points. So what do we need to talk about? Said Faisal is an advisor…
Paul TurnerHost
Jan BebbingtonHost
You can see why Saeed is here as an MC, Jan, because he does bring such a great overview and he's obviously paying a lot of attention and drawing thoughts and shaping his views and being willing to reshape his views in some cases by what he's hearing on the stage and being able to sum it up really nicely.

And there were several things that he talked about that I found really engaging.

One of them was putting the case and being listened to and that these two things have to come together, but also they're quite separate things.

There's been quite an emphasis at various times about what story we're going to tell, how do we tell the story, what are the different mediums in which we might tell the story together.

And even at the end of a session, there's been an artist drawing sort of very beautiful mind maps, but a much more creative form than a mind map about what's going on.

So the putting of the case with creativity and with power behind it, but then also creating the capacity to listen when somebody is telling you a story.

So it's not just one person trying to tell a story and not just from one region.

And we're hearing a lot of things from Southeast Asia that we wouldn't necessarily if this conference was held elsewhere, which is great to get those perspectives along with the global perspectives we're getting.

And if you've got that critical mass of people from all the regions, from different industries, from different walks of life, from entirely different backgrounds, that's when something might happen.

The other stack that he made, which I really liked, was shaping logic, emotion, and belief, and that these things come together when you as an individual or a group of people engage with an issue.

So it's kind of like the world doesn't stop at your neck and it only exists from your head up, which I think is actually an academic disease, as it were, but rather it comes down into your body with that emotion and belief informing everything else as well.

He's obviously done his comms training at some point because he does like his groups of threes.

Either that or he is actually made of AI, which would be entirely surprising because I'm sure he was really sat with us.

Because he also talked about climate disaster and sustainable development as a group of three things that go together to build sustainable resilience.

You talked about when he worked in finance and he said it was 1996 and said, you know, show me the money.

That was the actual year that Jerry Maguire and show me the money became a global thing.

I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that to be unless he's a big, big Tom Cruise or Cuba Gooding Jr. fan.

You can see why Saeed is here as an MC, Jan, because he does bring such a great overview and he's obviously paying a lot of attention and drawing thoughts and shaping his views and being willing to reshape his views in some cases by what he's hearing on the stage and being able to sum it up really nicely.

And there were several things that he talked about that I found really engaging.

One of them was putting the case and being listened to and that these two things have to come together, but also they're quite separate things.

There's been quite an emphasis at various times about what story we're going to tell, how do we tell the story, what are the different mediums in which we might tell the story together.

And even at the end of a session, there's been an artist drawing sort of very beautiful mind maps, but a much more creative form than a mind map about what's going on.

So the putting of the case with creativity and with power behind it, but then also creating the capacity to listen when somebody is telling you a story.

So it's not just one person trying to tell a story and not just from one region.

And we're hearing a lot of things from Southeast Asia that we wouldn't necessarily if this conference was held elsewhere, which is great to get those perspectives along with the global perspectives we're getting.

And if you've got that critical mass of people from all the regions, from different industries, from different walks of life, from entirely different backgrounds, that's when something might happen.

The other stack that he made, which I really liked, was shaping logic, emotion, and belief, and that these things come together when you as an individual or a group of people engage with an issue.

So it's kind of like the world doesn't stop at your neck and it only exists from your head up, which I think is actually an academic disease, as it were, but rather it comes down into your body with that emotion and belief informing everything else as well.

He's obviously done his comms training at some point because he does like his groups of threes.

Either that or he is actually made of AI, which would be entirely surprising because I'm sure he was really sat with us.

Because he also talked about climate disaster and sustainable development as a group of three things that go together to build sustainable resilience.

You talked about when he worked in finance and he said it was 1996 and said, you know, show me the money.

That was the actual year that Jerry Maguire and show me the money became a global thing.

I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that to be unless he's a big, big Tom Cruise or Cuba Gooding Jr. fan.
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