Training in Public Health (TiPH)
Sep 30, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min · 12 segments
A special live recording of the TiPH Podcast at the UKHSA 2026 Conference in Manchester. The premise of the session is to delve into the Human side of leadership. Not to share stories of perfection…
Tracy DaszkiewiczGuestJosh HowkinsHostUm, so I wonder if you could br- bring it back, I guess, for those in the audience that are early mid, mid-career, the next generation of sort of leaders.
Tracey, as, as sort of president of FPH and thinking about the competencies of, of registrars and our wider FPH, uh, membership, what, what do you think are the competencies that our future leaders will need for the sort of the big...

Um, those people that are early and mid-career, you're gonna have to work for about 200 years because pensionable age is getting further and further away.

Um, learn the, learn the bits that you don't like, and discard the bits that you don't like for sure.

I've learnt just as much from bad leaders as I have from good ones, um, in terms of who I want to be.

I think the biggest challenge is, is about how we enable to, h- enable systems to recognize leadership at all levels.

We often badge leadership, and we look to leadership of those people on HR structures that are at the top of HR structures are the people that are paid the most.

So whether you are an early consultant, whether you're on the training scheme, whether you are getting ready to join the training scheme, whether you are a practitioner, wherever you are in the system, your leadership qualities matter, and your leadership behaviors matter 'cause leadership's at all levels.

I think those of us that are able to make the decisions, we need to be comfortable with putting the people into the spaces, those people that know the most, not those people that are paid the most, um, because I certainly know I don't know the most.

So how, how do we actually enable that and do that? And I think we have all of our learning outcomes.

But I think the three things that are most important is about knowing your purpose within that.
Um, so I wonder if you could br- bring it back, I guess, for those in the audience that are early mid, mid-career, the next generation of sort of leaders.
Tracey, as, as sort of president of FPH and thinking about the competencies of, of registrars and our wider FPH, uh, membership, what, what do you think are the competencies that our future leaders will need for the sort of the big...

Um, those people that are early and mid-career, you're gonna have to work for about 200 years because pensionable age is getting further and further away.

Um, learn the, learn the bits that you don't like, and discard the bits that you don't like for sure.

I've learnt just as much from bad leaders as I have from good ones, um, in terms of who I want to be.

I think the biggest challenge is, is about how we enable to, h- enable systems to recognize leadership at all levels.

We often badge leadership, and we look to leadership of those people on HR structures that are at the top of HR structures are the people that are paid the most.

So whether you are an early consultant, whether you're on the training scheme, whether you are getting ready to join the training scheme, whether you are a practitioner, wherever you are in the system, your leadership qualities matter, and your leadership behaviors matter 'cause leadership's at all levels.

I think those of us that are able to make the decisions, we need to be comfortable with putting the people into the spaces, those people that know the most, not those people that are paid the most, um, because I certainly know I don't know the most.

So how, how do we actually enable that and do that? And I think we have all of our learning outcomes.

But I think the three things that are most important is about knowing your purpose within that.
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