How, how does the sort of faculty and yourself kind of see that landscape?

Yeah.

Um, I think first and foremost is don't be in a rush.

Um, those people that are early and mid-career, you're gonna have to work for about 200 years because pensionable age is getting further and further away.

So I think the biggest message is just take your time.

Um, be in the moment.

Learn from the people around you.

Tracey, just to kind of bring you in, what's your journey been with authenticity in, in public health leadership? Do you think authenticity is available equally to all leaders?

But I do think it's a helpful metaphor for the leadership journey that I found myself on in terms of in public health, but in my whole arena of the world, really.

Yeah, no, it's fascinating because obviously after listening to you speak, I went off and did some reading about this.

And it was definitely within that moment I realised that I was very happy being a pillar.

And some of the reading around this is very much around the fact that your pillar is very much about the longevity of things.

You know, it's your core values.

It's the stuff that takes time to build, the things that shape you and the things that will stay way beyond.

And where as a platform, it can be for a period of time, it could just be for those five minutes that you're speaking, you know, it's quite fleeting.

It's a very simple analogy, but it feels to me that I go around going... right, is this a thing we really want to do? Is this a thing we not want to do? And then with kindness and wisdom and grace, I'm trying to make sure I throw the right bucket on it.