Sep 22, 2026 · 34 min · 14 segments
Canada has the minerals the world needs. But does that actually give us power? In our final episode, Canada’s Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, Tim Hodgson, talks about critical minerals as…
Tim HodgsonGuest
Priya TandonGuestAmber MackHostFor decades, Canada built its economy around the assumption that we would always have relatively open access to the enormous market next door.
You've described Canada's natural resources as some of the strongest cards that we hold.

So I'm sure many of your listeners have listened to the prime minister talk about what's happening in the world right now.

We have two superpowers that are, as he calls them, hegemons that are battling it out for global supremacy.

And as they look at how they compete, they are increasingly using trade as a mode of competition.



On many, many critical minerals, China controls 70, 80, 90% of the world's supply of these critical minerals.

We saw in the last year when the U.S. started using trade as a weapon, a form of coercion saying, hey, China, we're going to impose 100% tariffs on you.

What did that mean? That meant that many factories were on the verge of shutting down after literally weeks.

Within a week or two of China imposing those restrictions, automobile factories were shutting down, defense manufacturing facilities were on the verge of shutting down, aerospace was on the verge of shutting down.

And in a world where the hegemons are using these things to coerce others, when you have what they want, it gives you cards.

And what I tell all my constituents in my riding is we all saw President Trump lecturing President Zelensky in the White House about how he had no cards.


Well, Amber, every night I go to sleep and say, how do I make sure we're never in that situation? How do I make sure we always have the cards to play?
Let's talk about that situation in terms of what is the single biggest thing standing between the Canada that we have today and the one your government says it wants to build?
For decades, Canada built its economy around the assumption that we would always have relatively open access to the enormous market next door.
You've described Canada's natural resources as some of the strongest cards that we hold.

So I'm sure many of your listeners have listened to the prime minister talk about what's happening in the world right now.

We have two superpowers that are, as he calls them, hegemons that are battling it out for global supremacy.

And as they look at how they compete, they are increasingly using trade as a mode of competition.



On many, many critical minerals, China controls 70, 80, 90% of the world's supply of these critical minerals.

We saw in the last year when the U.S. started using trade as a weapon, a form of coercion saying, hey, China, we're going to impose 100% tariffs on you.

What did that mean? That meant that many factories were on the verge of shutting down after literally weeks.

Within a week or two of China imposing those restrictions, automobile factories were shutting down, defense manufacturing facilities were on the verge of shutting down, aerospace was on the verge of shutting down.

And in a world where the hegemons are using these things to coerce others, when you have what they want, it gives you cards.

And what I tell all my constituents in my riding is we all saw President Trump lecturing President Zelensky in the White House about how he had no cards.


Well, Amber, every night I go to sleep and say, how do I make sure we're never in that situation? How do I make sure we always have the cards to play?
Let's talk about that situation in terms of what is the single biggest thing standing between the Canada that we have today and the one your government says it wants to build?
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