Sep 1, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 10 segments
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Nazanin AshGuest
Michael IgoeHost
But it seems to me the challenge is many, many fold, but there are two components of it that I want to sort of differentiate and draw attention to.

so that's one piece of this is the protracted crisis piece the second piece or a second piece among many is is that the humanitarian system that's been set up to intake and provide for refugees is not built to account for that first part.

At the risk of asking you to, you know, save the world on a podcast, maybe you could sort of break up both of those pieces and talk about, you know, the institutions that are

meant to be injecting themselves into those two pieces of the problem, how they're doing that and whether it's sort of meeting the moment.

So I would say these systems were set up at a time, this is post-World War II, our global humanitarian system was set up at a time when conflicts were most often characterized as conflicts between states.

And so they were conflicts where, okay, there's like, you know, we had the world wars, we had, you know, these inter-country conflicts.

And so people are displaced, those conflicts are resolved in some form, people can

And I think it's important to note that that system wasn't set up only for humanitarian intent.


where, you know, host communities don't have the resources they need to receive them, where there's no system to integrate them, where, you know, like unmanaged flows create enormous antibodies.

They create economic burdens if they're not managed well, you know, but we'll come back to that point.

So it was always set up with both this intent around global stability and humanitarian intentions.

But it seems to me the challenge is many, many fold, but there are two components of it that I want to sort of differentiate and draw attention to.

so that's one piece of this is the protracted crisis piece the second piece or a second piece among many is is that the humanitarian system that's been set up to intake and provide for refugees is not built to account for that first part.

At the risk of asking you to, you know, save the world on a podcast, maybe you could sort of break up both of those pieces and talk about, you know, the institutions that are

meant to be injecting themselves into those two pieces of the problem, how they're doing that and whether it's sort of meeting the moment.

So I would say these systems were set up at a time, this is post-World War II, our global humanitarian system was set up at a time when conflicts were most often characterized as conflicts between states.

And so they were conflicts where, okay, there's like, you know, we had the world wars, we had, you know, these inter-country conflicts.

And so people are displaced, those conflicts are resolved in some form, people can

And I think it's important to note that that system wasn't set up only for humanitarian intent.


where, you know, host communities don't have the resources they need to receive them, where there's no system to integrate them, where, you know, like unmanaged flows create enormous antibodies.

They create economic burdens if they're not managed well, you know, but we'll come back to that point.

So it was always set up with both this intent around global stability and humanitarian intentions.
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