Aug 24, 2026 · 49 min · 12 segments
The conversation covers the experiences and insights of Uncle Larry, a retired firefighter paramedic, as he discusses the significance of leadership, behavioral health, and decision-making in the fire…
Larry DoelingGuestMickeyHostYou make it about the people, right, Larry? I can already tell all of our stories that we've had teaching all over the country that you were definitely a battalion chief's heartache sometimes, which is funny because you teach leadership and everything, but you have a pretty good sense of humor, so.

It's kind of, you know, you're retired, right, Mickey? So when you retire from our department, they give you your paper file.

It's basically like a three to four to one ratio of written reprimands and disciplinary actions to attaboys.
From all accounts, everybody I've talked to, they would go anywhere with you, which is leadership, right? Because if you're just going by yourself, you're just walking.
You got to have everybody that will go with you to your

But I pretty much everybody that's in my station is going on to get promoted and they're well on their way to successful career.

We have a program called a cadet program where the high school kids come in and they hang out in the fire station.
many kids.

you know, a dozen of these kids have gone through and they're all, they all got big boy jobs.
You make it about the people, right, Larry? I can already tell all of our stories that we've had teaching all over the country that you were definitely a battalion chief's heartache sometimes, which is funny because you teach leadership and everything, but you have a pretty good sense of humor, so.

It's kind of, you know, you're retired, right, Mickey? So when you retire from our department, they give you your paper file.

It's basically like a three to four to one ratio of written reprimands and disciplinary actions to attaboys.
From all accounts, everybody I've talked to, they would go anywhere with you, which is leadership, right? Because if you're just going by yourself, you're just walking.
You got to have everybody that will go with you to your

But I pretty much everybody that's in my station is going on to get promoted and they're well on their way to successful career.

We have a program called a cadet program where the high school kids come in and they hang out in the fire station.
many kids.

you know, a dozen of these kids have gone through and they're all, they all got big boy jobs.
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