Oct 1, 2026 · 36 min · 11 segments
What happens when VR meets AI, and your watchband can read your nerves? 🤯 In this mind-expanding episode, Victor Cho sits down with technologist and HP innovation strategist Nirav Desai to explore…
Victor ChoHost
Do you worry at all? Like, on one hand, I'm torn because I'm like, wow, some of these in the world of AR, right, having some of this functionality is great.

But at the same time, we built a society that is so consumed with their devices that aren't piping into their retina.

Like, I'm just trying to think, what happens to a conversation when you and I are chatting and there's this thing that you can't see that's like, you know, sending me information or ads and I'm distracted.
Um, and I think that's going to be like, this is, so I'm, I'm involved with an organization, the virtual world society.
It was started by Tom Furness, uh, considered the grandfather of AI, uh, VR, sorry.
The central premise of Virtual World Society is that we are the business model by which we built big data and cloud is not very helpful to the consumer, the user experience.
Selling ad space in a virtual world should not be the business model for effective use.
I don't want to walk down the street full of people with virtual Times Square everywhere we go.
I want something that's and we should think of business models to enable this that allow the right information at the time for what's relevant.

Do you worry at all? Like, on one hand, I'm torn because I'm like, wow, some of these in the world of AR, right, having some of this functionality is great.

But at the same time, we built a society that is so consumed with their devices that aren't piping into their retina.

Like, I'm just trying to think, what happens to a conversation when you and I are chatting and there's this thing that you can't see that's like, you know, sending me information or ads and I'm distracted.
Um, and I think that's going to be like, this is, so I'm, I'm involved with an organization, the virtual world society.
It was started by Tom Furness, uh, considered the grandfather of AI, uh, VR, sorry.
The central premise of Virtual World Society is that we are the business model by which we built big data and cloud is not very helpful to the consumer, the user experience.
Selling ad space in a virtual world should not be the business model for effective use.
I don't want to walk down the street full of people with virtual Times Square everywhere we go.
I want something that's and we should think of business models to enable this that allow the right information at the time for what's relevant.
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