Aug 4, 2026 · 38 min · 12 segments
My guest today is Olivia Roff who lives in Sussex with her husband and two children, who are 10 and 5, and both neurodivergent. Olivia had wanted to try home educating some years ago, but wasn’t able…
Olivia RoffGuest
Esther JonesHost
That sometimes, no matter what the dream, no matter what, we want to do if the capacity isn't there, it isn't there.
And then I loved your story because so much of it resonated with me, like kind of like, I'm going to set this thing up and it's going to be beautiful and it's going to be perfect.
And we had this bee in our bonnet and this expectation of what free children look like, right? And of course, it's so much more complex than that.
Recognizing our expectations and where they sometimes clash with our actual child that we have.
I think that's a continual part of unschooling is that recognizing this is my expectation.
That sometimes, no matter what the dream, no matter what, we want to do if the capacity isn't there, it isn't there.
And then I loved your story because so much of it resonated with me, like kind of like, I'm going to set this thing up and it's going to be beautiful and it's going to be perfect.
And we had this bee in our bonnet and this expectation of what free children look like, right? And of course, it's so much more complex than that.
Recognizing our expectations and where they sometimes clash with our actual child that we have.
I think that's a continual part of unschooling is that recognizing this is my expectation.
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