Oct 13, 2026 · 1 hr 48 min · 11 segments
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Shellee RoseGuest
Travis CochranHost
A- and I feel like it is a, that is a hard one at times because I naturally am incredibly hard on myself, and it has definitely worked for me because I have created a lot as a result of that.

But then equally, it also has meant that I can be in my head a lot, and it can be almost hard to fully acknowledge where I am because I'm always looking at what's happening next.

And there is so much nuance in this because I think my biggest strength is also my biggest weakness, and that is that I truly want to fulfill every part of my potential in this life, and I believe that we all are given a purpose.

We're all given, you know, tools and resources and experiences that are going to allow you to create the things that you want, and that is a superpower.

But again, there is also the part where sometimes I can spend too much time thinking I'm not where I want to be, that I actually acknowledge where I am, and it's not until I sit in that and be like, you know, take away even the external things.

I have, you know, the most beautiful friendship network or friendship circle, and I have everything that I could ever want, really."

Would you say that especially high, high-achieving women, do you see that whole thing of just really up in here, really hard on themselves, like, "I should be further ahead"? Like, is this a conversation you hear a lot?

And I was literally having this conversation with Tay this afterno- this morning because we were just talking about life and all the things.

And she obviously has just stepped into motherhood, so she's navigating a whole new thing.

And she's like, "Shell," like, "fuck, how do you do it with two kids?" And, and I was like, "Yeah, isn't it so funny that externally people can kind of look in and be like, 'Oh, they're, you know, she's got two kids and she does, does all this.'" And I was saying like, "We're about to start building our fourth property." And it's like they're big achievements, right? But it's not until I actually acknowledge them that I'm like, "Oh, you're actually doing okay." [laughs]

Us both being coaches as well, I think sometimes in this industry we can always want to dis- dissect everything and the why.

Sometimes it's like, what if being a high achiever is a really beautiful thing too, because you've been able to help your family create what you have.

A- and I feel like it is a, that is a hard one at times because I naturally am incredibly hard on myself, and it has definitely worked for me because I have created a lot as a result of that.

But then equally, it also has meant that I can be in my head a lot, and it can be almost hard to fully acknowledge where I am because I'm always looking at what's happening next.

And there is so much nuance in this because I think my biggest strength is also my biggest weakness, and that is that I truly want to fulfill every part of my potential in this life, and I believe that we all are given a purpose.

We're all given, you know, tools and resources and experiences that are going to allow you to create the things that you want, and that is a superpower.

But again, there is also the part where sometimes I can spend too much time thinking I'm not where I want to be, that I actually acknowledge where I am, and it's not until I sit in that and be like, you know, take away even the external things.

I have, you know, the most beautiful friendship network or friendship circle, and I have everything that I could ever want, really."

Would you say that especially high, high-achieving women, do you see that whole thing of just really up in here, really hard on themselves, like, "I should be further ahead"? Like, is this a conversation you hear a lot?

And I was literally having this conversation with Tay this afterno- this morning because we were just talking about life and all the things.

And she obviously has just stepped into motherhood, so she's navigating a whole new thing.

And she's like, "Shell," like, "fuck, how do you do it with two kids?" And, and I was like, "Yeah, isn't it so funny that externally people can kind of look in and be like, 'Oh, they're, you know, she's got two kids and she does, does all this.'" And I was saying like, "We're about to start building our fourth property." And it's like they're big achievements, right? But it's not until I actually acknowledge them that I'm like, "Oh, you're actually doing okay." [laughs]

Us both being coaches as well, I think sometimes in this industry we can always want to dis- dissect everything and the why.

Sometimes it's like, what if being a high achiever is a really beautiful thing too, because you've been able to help your family create what you have.
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