Jun 17, 2026 · 1 hr 27 min · 10 segments
What does it actually look like to put young people at the center of preventing sexual violence? In this episode, Jacqueline sits down with Shael Norris, Founding Executive Director of SafeBAE, and a…
Shael NorrisGuestJacquelineHostThank you.
Thanks for having me.
So I want to dive into your why a little bit.
So you spent your career advocating for survivors and leading prevention initiatives.
So what was that moment where you decided that this was your life's work? I

That is such a good question because I don't know if there's one specific moment or like a lot of little moments leading along the way.

So I was just a wide-eyed girl of 22 in New York working in theater and you know, meeting Eve Ensler and getting, and formerly Eve Ensler now be, um, and getting to work on the vagina monologues and understanding and getting little by little to see the impact of that show and the transformative conversations and change that came out of the advocacy that grew out of those productions and,
and the

Um, and, I think just little by little, I think I saw myself going like, well, what else would I do that would be important if it isn't this? And I think at a certain point in the middle of all that, I started that before I became a mom.

And then when you become a mom, you go, okay, well, there's a whole different other mindset and lens through which you see the world, not just for yourself or your experiences or those around you.

you start to think about like what you want to leave for your kids and what you want your legacy to be.

And as crazy as it seemed in my 30s to be thinking about my legacy, it was so obvious.

There's nobody working in a higher ed that isn't like, oh no, we don't need to start these conversations younger.

It became obvious that there was a whole like lifespan of work that needed to be addressed and really big gaps in among, you know, talking with things about younger, with younger people about these issues that just was sitting there.

virtually untouched in the way that I wanted to and saw a way we could lean into that.

And mostly it was meeting extraordinary young people that forced my thinking to be like, if I'm not...
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
So I want to dive into your why a little bit.
So you spent your career advocating for survivors and leading prevention initiatives.
So what was that moment where you decided that this was your life's work? I

That is such a good question because I don't know if there's one specific moment or like a lot of little moments leading along the way.

So I was just a wide-eyed girl of 22 in New York working in theater and you know, meeting Eve Ensler and getting, and formerly Eve Ensler now be, um, and getting to work on the vagina monologues and understanding and getting little by little to see the impact of that show and the transformative conversations and change that came out of the advocacy that grew out of those productions and,
and the

Um, and, I think just little by little, I think I saw myself going like, well, what else would I do that would be important if it isn't this? And I think at a certain point in the middle of all that, I started that before I became a mom.

And then when you become a mom, you go, okay, well, there's a whole different other mindset and lens through which you see the world, not just for yourself or your experiences or those around you.

you start to think about like what you want to leave for your kids and what you want your legacy to be.

And as crazy as it seemed in my 30s to be thinking about my legacy, it was so obvious.

There's nobody working in a higher ed that isn't like, oh no, we don't need to start these conversations younger.

It became obvious that there was a whole like lifespan of work that needed to be addressed and really big gaps in among, you know, talking with things about younger, with younger people about these issues that just was sitting there.

virtually untouched in the way that I wanted to and saw a way we could lean into that.

And mostly it was meeting extraordinary young people that forced my thinking to be like, if I'm not...
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