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Shael Norris

Oct 9, 2026

2:56
I mean, how, how common is sexual violence? Is it still a issue among young people? What's the, the state of where we are?
3:05
It's extraordinarily common.
3:06
I don't even think the statistics, which I think have it as, what is it? One in four among girls and one in six among boys experience, and I don't even think those are necessarily reflective of the actual.
3:18
That's what we know for reporting young people.
3:21
I think it's incredibly pervasive.
3:23
I think it's interesting b- you know, bringing up Cornell that I think the hardest part that we're having with the reactionary moment around Cornell is, like, this is the same exact story.
3:38
It's just a different school, and for some reason it's getting this national attention, but it is devastatingly common and frequent and similar.

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16:50
As you think about where we are currently and what's next, where is SAFEBAE headed? Where does work need to be done? Uh, where do the gaps in care? What are your thoughts?
39:58
Okay, and eventually you end up somewhere.
40:01
The problem with AI is that we know it's sycophantic, and kids know it too.
40:06
And so if you're coming in to be like, "Hey, did I cause harm to this person?" AI, in general, is gonna skew toward telling you what you wanna hear.
40:14
And that is not where you learn.
40:15
That is not how you reflect.
40:17
And one of the things that we've seen from some of the adoption of AI in some of these spaces too is that it may have better responses initially, but the further you get into the conversation with AI, the less it remembers from the beginning.
40:30
One of the experiments we did with some of the tools that have been built was saying, "I'm in a relationship.

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What would you want people to do listening to you today? Do you want someone to contact you and-
JacquelineHOST
9:49
So I'd love to hear more about that.
9:51
No, it really has been the gift of my life too.
9:55
So, I mean, I was sitting within V-Day still.
9:58
I was about probably 16 years into being the director of college and community campaigns.
10:05
And I really wanted to start doing this work younger.
10:09
And yet at the same, we were also sort of at this moment in V-Day where it was like, Are we still relevant? Are we still doing the important work? Are we still like at the top of our game? Should we be still doing what we're doing or investing in like a next, right? Like creating that sort of opening for other people to step forward, right? Which is really counterintuitive.
10:37
You don't really see organizations get big and say, are we still serving what we came here to do? And if we're not, let's get out of the way and invite new innovation.

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JacquelineHOST
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What an
12:16
They're taking sides.
12:17
Yeah.
12:18
And we also see, because it's understood in such a black and white way, that, like, we only see people that could do something that harmful as, like, they have to be monsters.
12:29
And I think what, what, uh, from my perspective, what we continue to hear from survivors in this age group is, like, "That is not helping me.
12:38
As it turns out, that's just creating this huge level of responsibility that I feel, 'cause it turns out they caused me harm.
12:46
I feel that harm.
12:47
I want them to say they're sorry, and I want them to not do it to anyone else.

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33:51
C- can you say why?

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