The Mountain Was the Pitch
One creative choice transformed an impossible production
The Sandbox: A See-Saw Podcast On Creativity
Sep 14, 2026 · 30 min · 10 segments
We do a deep dive case study into producing Tenzing with Liz Watts, one of Australia's most successful producers — we get into working with a cross-cultural cast and crew, the detail required to stay…
Liz WattsGuest
Emile ShermanHost
Some, you know, we've got a lot of stakeholders as producers in terms of, like, who are we making, who do you think we're making a show for, you know? I was thinking we've got, you know, commissioners, financiers.

Um, I think you, uh, absolutely have many masters, and you have the financiers/commissioners, um, and then you have the expectations of the creative, key creative.

Um, but I think ultimately it's the audience, and that's always the most terrifying part, I think, is when you finish something and you hope it's good or you think it's good and you, you have to sh- you just want people to see it.

Some, you know, we've got a lot of stakeholders as producers in terms of, like, who are we making, who do you think we're making a show for, you know? I was thinking we've got, you know, commissioners, financiers.

Um, I think you, uh, absolutely have many masters, and you have the financiers/commissioners, um, and then you have the expectations of the creative, key creative.

Um, but I think ultimately it's the audience, and that's always the most terrifying part, I think, is when you finish something and you hope it's good or you think it's good and you, you have to sh- you just want people to see it.
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