What Children Already Know:A conversation with Jamie Campbell, Co-Founder, Two Short Storeys
Jul 9, 2026 · 1 hr 27 min · 12 segments
**About This Episode** What can a room full of toddlers teach us about leadership? More than most boardrooms ever will. In this episode, Mazarine speaks with Jamie Campbell a former corporate media…
**About This Episode** What can a room full of toddlers teach us about leadership? More than most boardrooms ever will. In this episode, Mazarine speaks with Jamie Campbell a former corporate media executive and MBA graduate who walked away from a decade-long career to co-found Two Short Storeys, a childcare centre in Toronto serving children from six months to four years old. They explore what it means to lead in a space where the stakes are entirely human, where trust is never assumed, and where the smallest people in the room are taken the most seriously. A conversation about what it takes to build something that cannot be scaled on a spreadsheet and why the calm in a room full of children puts most corporate offices to shame. **About Jamie Campbell** Jamie Campbell is the co-founder of Two Short Storeys, a full-service licensed childcare centre in Toronto serving children from six months to four years and is also involved with The Mabin School. Before co-founding Two Short Storeys, Jamie spent over a decade in multi-platform media and holds an MBA from the Ted Rogers School of Management. He left corporate life not out of frustration, but out of foresight and what he found on the other side changed how he understands leadership, culture, and what it means to build genuine trust. **What We Cover** – Why Jamie walked away from a successful media career and the writing on the wall that made staying feel riskier than leaving – What people outside the childcare world consistently misunderstand about the work – “Your people ARE your business” the hiring lesson that changed everything once culture came first – How the same room is never one thing: a child, a parent, and an educator each experience it differently – What listening actually looks like here and why what’s on the surface is rarely what’s truly wrong – What genuinely builds trust with families and the one thing that quietly breaks it – Staying calm and present when emotions are immediate and everything is happening at once – The difference between knowledge and wisdom and what the MBA never taught him – What Jamie has had to unlearn moving from a “take no prisoners” sales culture to a gentle one – The Pareidolia Method: what children’s unfiltered way of seeing can teach experienced leaders – Why a room full of small children can feel calmer and more in control than a downtown office tower – What success looks like now and why silence is complicity **Standout Lines** *“Your people ARE your business. That’s not hyperbole it’s the absolute truth.”* *“What’s on the surface isn’t what’s truly wrong.”* *“Trust is earned, not demanded.”* *“There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom and wisdom is earned over time, through mistakes.”* *“To go quickly, you have to slow down.”* *“It’s a building in control.”* *“Silence is complicity.”* *“The room you’ve built is one where the smallest people in it are taken the most seriously.”* **Links & Resources** – The Art Brewery: www.theartbrewery.com – Mazarine Memon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mazarinememontheartbrewery/ – Jamie Campbell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiemhcampbell/ – Two Short Storeys: https://twoshortstoreys.ca/ **Share This Episode** If this conversation resonated, follow The Same Room wherever you listen and share it with a leader who needs to hear it. https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Dw4xG6TdIjv6F7oOmUxDX?si=2rAkv7ViTB2nVBqha1sIuQ
**About This Episode** What can a room full of toddlers teach us about leadership? More than most boardrooms ever will. In this episode, Mazarine speaks with Jamie Campbell a former corporate media…
