The Sabbatical Journey Podcast
Aug 18, 2026 · 34 min · 9 segments
What happens when you finally have enough time away from work to see your life clearly? DJ DiDonna has spent nearly a decade trying to understand that question. After his own sabbatical changed the…
Alan BriggsHost
The way I put it is the way we work is not working and it has all kinds of fallout issues.

Talk a little bit more about how people maybe uncover and rediscover humanity during and after sabbatical.
It was something that came up in the research over and over again where I don't think many people, this might be your experience or not, but I don't think many people are like, I want to set out on a sabbatical to feel more human.
I think it's like they realize afterwards that how they were living was not very human.
It wasn't about creativity and family and being in nature and feeling in our body.
But the impact of it afterwards is like, oh, I was kind of acting like a machine where you put in sleep and food and then you get productivity out of that.
As opposed to making time to watch the sunset or cooking dinner with your family, things like that.
Like how I'm hearing you describe your life is like a machine, but let's talk afterwards.
But it does, I think, rise to the surface feeling more human, you know, waking up and not being governed by your calendar, by your inbox and returning to whatever drives you, whatever curiosities and passions drive you.

And I learned to do that because why not? And when I'm underneath the hood, trying not to burn myself with a torch, you can't think about anything else.

And so really it's like Cal Newport's deep play in that sense, that's creating stuff.

Um, but I just, I mean, maybe would have never discovered welding, um, had it not for that, for that time.

The way I put it is the way we work is not working and it has all kinds of fallout issues.

Talk a little bit more about how people maybe uncover and rediscover humanity during and after sabbatical.
It was something that came up in the research over and over again where I don't think many people, this might be your experience or not, but I don't think many people are like, I want to set out on a sabbatical to feel more human.
I think it's like they realize afterwards that how they were living was not very human.
It wasn't about creativity and family and being in nature and feeling in our body.
But the impact of it afterwards is like, oh, I was kind of acting like a machine where you put in sleep and food and then you get productivity out of that.
As opposed to making time to watch the sunset or cooking dinner with your family, things like that.
Like how I'm hearing you describe your life is like a machine, but let's talk afterwards.
But it does, I think, rise to the surface feeling more human, you know, waking up and not being governed by your calendar, by your inbox and returning to whatever drives you, whatever curiosities and passions drive you.

And I learned to do that because why not? And when I'm underneath the hood, trying not to burn myself with a torch, you can't think about anything else.

And so really it's like Cal Newport's deep play in that sense, that's creating stuff.

Um, but I just, I mean, maybe would have never discovered welding, um, had it not for that, for that time.
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