Oct 12, 2026 · 54 min · 11 segments
Paul Garcia-Ryan identified as a woman from age 15 to age 30, then chose to detransition. Today he is a licensed clinical social worker and the president of Therapy First, and he argues that the…
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Well, Paul, I appreciate you taking the time to tell your story and share just kind of your personal journey, because that is what shaped you and the founder of Therapy First on your website.

You're a natural clinician, she says, able to hold the full complexity of any situation.

got a degree which are great and important but it's because you you walked it and you understood and and you spent the time to reflect personally and understand just your own journey and you said something interesting just now even in 2005 approximately when you might have started this journey the words weren't there or or the conversation wasn't there and we've even seen from old english in the early 1900s the idea of transvestite or transsexual changing in the 60s to transgenderism, which didn't really take off.

And if you look at certain terms, it didn't even really take off into the nineties or even the early two thousands.

There's a study, a word study that looked at the word cisgender that had about a 0.0 occurrence in 2000.

So a lot of things have changed even in, in the the journey that you had, what are some of those other changes that you see occurring in culture and society that are impacting young people today?
And before I answer that, I think that you just touched upon something that is really, really important to take note of, which is that in this area of healthcare in particular, terms and language change all the time.
And so you have to, when you're working in it, you do have to really stay on top of how this area is evolving.
And that rapid evolution involves the evolution of even just the language that's used.
And so that's, I think, part of the thing that really sort of trips up a lot of people working in this space is that, you know, It can be really hard to keep up with the language and the terms and how the definitions of terms have changed.
And in a lot of ways, there are terms that therapists are using and they're operating differently.
And so in so many instances, what I see are therapists talking past each other.
And we can get into that a little bit more because there's a lot to say about that, but to... answer your question about how this area has evolved.
I mean, we don't have to get into the weeds about it, but the most important thing to really keep in mind is that over time, It's moved from prioritizing a mental health model to prioritizing a medical model.
And there, like I said earlier before, the demographics and cohorts of young people experiencing gender dysphoria has also changed.
And so there was a dramatic rise in natal females with an onset of gender dysphoria in their adolescence.
Post-puberty with no prior experience of gender dysphoria or gender nonconformity in early childhood, before adolescence.

Well, Paul, I appreciate you taking the time to tell your story and share just kind of your personal journey, because that is what shaped you and the founder of Therapy First on your website.

You're a natural clinician, she says, able to hold the full complexity of any situation.

got a degree which are great and important but it's because you you walked it and you understood and and you spent the time to reflect personally and understand just your own journey and you said something interesting just now even in 2005 approximately when you might have started this journey the words weren't there or or the conversation wasn't there and we've even seen from old english in the early 1900s the idea of transvestite or transsexual changing in the 60s to transgenderism, which didn't really take off.

And if you look at certain terms, it didn't even really take off into the nineties or even the early two thousands.

There's a study, a word study that looked at the word cisgender that had about a 0.0 occurrence in 2000.

So a lot of things have changed even in, in the the journey that you had, what are some of those other changes that you see occurring in culture and society that are impacting young people today?
And before I answer that, I think that you just touched upon something that is really, really important to take note of, which is that in this area of healthcare in particular, terms and language change all the time.
And so you have to, when you're working in it, you do have to really stay on top of how this area is evolving.
And that rapid evolution involves the evolution of even just the language that's used.
And so that's, I think, part of the thing that really sort of trips up a lot of people working in this space is that, you know, It can be really hard to keep up with the language and the terms and how the definitions of terms have changed.
And in a lot of ways, there are terms that therapists are using and they're operating differently.
And so in so many instances, what I see are therapists talking past each other.
And we can get into that a little bit more because there's a lot to say about that, but to... answer your question about how this area has evolved.
I mean, we don't have to get into the weeds about it, but the most important thing to really keep in mind is that over time, It's moved from prioritizing a mental health model to prioritizing a medical model.
And there, like I said earlier before, the demographics and cohorts of young people experiencing gender dysphoria has also changed.
And so there was a dramatic rise in natal females with an onset of gender dysphoria in their adolescence.
Post-puberty with no prior experience of gender dysphoria or gender nonconformity in early childhood, before adolescence.
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