My Brother Jon

Oh, so that was 2006.

2010, um, do you remember Perth, Scotland, the last night of the Drops Like Stars in that small, um...

And there was that art s- that, like, uh, symphony space.

Like, I just have these distinct things of people we met and people we told them, "No, you can't come on...

No, mm-mm.

Stay away." [laughs] Yeah.

All that, and not to overshare too much, but there were times where I kinda had to be bodyguard, too.

[laughs]

And that's kinda funny.

So I think it's also where as brothers, uh, you kinda have a different lens-

Yeah

... at times, too.

Yeah, yeah.

And-

There's like a Silverback energy of, like-

'Cause there was, at that moment in your career, um, this was, uh, pre-Love Wins.

There were a lot of, uh, conservative Christian voices out there that had opinions on what you should and shouldn't be doing, and, and-

Bullhorns.

There were bullhorns by that point.

Bullhorns, yeah.

So that was a different-

Proper people out front with speakers letting people know the, uh-

So in addition to-

[laughs]

... pulling off a, a proper tour and-