Ogilvy

Peter Hitchens is the veteran Mail on Sunday columnist and author whose forthcoming book, The Madness of Cars, examines what he sees as Britain's disastrous embrace of the motor car and the destruction of the railway-based transport system which preceded it.

Rory Sutherland is Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, one of the country's best-known advocates of applying behavioral science to real-world problems, and he's the co-author of Transport for Humans.

He's also a railway enthusiast, but definitely not an opponent of the motor car.

The genesis of this program was a series of exchanges between the two on social media.

I'm gonna ask this, actually.

So-

How many cars are on Ogilvy's books? The, how many car companies do you, do you actually-

I, I have, without giving too much away, I have test driven the new electric Jaguar, a- albeit under camouflage conditions, and it's sensational, by the way.

The Yankees blew a sure double play.

goes to third and Ogilvy safe

at first base I don't think the Brewers have an argument there the ball was obviously in Bucky's hand above the glove when it flipped out didn't even come out of the glove he had the ball out of the glove starting to throw it somehow it flipped out of the glove or out of the hand actually and ended up moving toward the pitching mound but the third baseman Buck Rogers is out there arguing along with George Bamberger but of course they'll get nowhere with second base umpire Ken Kizer

Well, Rogers gives up the argument.

Lascato bounces one left side.

Nice hop for Dent.

He gets the ball to Randolph with a force of Ogilvy, and the Brewers are retired.

They get an unearned run on two base hits, a Yankee error, and two men are left.

He missed him with the tag.

A good throw by Ogilvy.

Almost got him.

And it's a double for Gamble.

LaFleur, or rather to stop.

LaFleur is off a second.

Ogilvy at first.

Or Fuentes at first.

But actually, my dad asked me to come and do a bit of work for him in his PR agency.

So he left the big agency called Ogilvy & Mather and started out a new business.

And I thought, OK, that's cool.

You know, why not? And I came to this realization that I didn't really know much about business other than what I was doing from a radio perspective.

I mean, so much of it is marketing.

I was looking back at the 80s and the birth of the SCA in America, and I think it was Ogilvy that did the whole, like the creation of the third way or like specialty coffee and things like that.

And you realize sometimes, although coffee is incredibly precious to me, and I would say to us as an industry, We are just a product that is subject to the same rules and laws of marketing in the way that many other things are.

We have our own peculiarities within that.

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