Oct 19, 2026 · 19 min · 8 segments
Jan Jekielek, NYT Bestselling Author of “Killed to Order,” talks with Rick Jensen about the Senate Bill heading to the U.S. House designed to ban a real genocide in Communist China. Will Sarah McBride…
Jan JekielekGuestRick JensenHostEven a tribunal in the United Kingdom studied this and came to the conclusion it is true.
Now, my listeners know that I've been involved in discussions about this, trying to help reveal this, at least where I broadcast, Delaware, South Jersey, Northern Maryland.
I've also volunteered as an emcee and a moderator at a number of different events.
The only survivor that I know of, I've heard maybe there are two, but one that's truly known, the only survivor of these hospital prisons.
We did, it was a, just sort of a seminar and press conference over at Goldie Beacom College.
And I think what's happening is that you have big business, you have... not just those in the media that are making, I guess, billions of dollars from China, but also other businesses that they really don't want to admit this is going on because if they do, they're complicit and they'll lose a lot of money.
So it's really been a chore for Falun Gong, our mutual friend, Cindy Liu, for example, and others.
It's been a real chore for them over the last quarter of a century just to convince people to listen to them because there's so many billions and billions of dollars coming into this country from communist China.

quick thing right yeah i testified in front of the congressional executive commission on china uh soon after my book came out and became this new york times bestseller um And what I list in that testimony is a whole lot of ways in which America and Americans are complicit.

Not just Americans, but people from many different countries, right? But we train some of those surgeons that actually do this, like kill people for organs.

Money is a big thing, but it's also just Let's say you're a very prominent transplantation organization, right? Like TPF, the Transplantation Society.
Even a tribunal in the United Kingdom studied this and came to the conclusion it is true.
Now, my listeners know that I've been involved in discussions about this, trying to help reveal this, at least where I broadcast, Delaware, South Jersey, Northern Maryland.
I've also volunteered as an emcee and a moderator at a number of different events.
The only survivor that I know of, I've heard maybe there are two, but one that's truly known, the only survivor of these hospital prisons.
We did, it was a, just sort of a seminar and press conference over at Goldie Beacom College.
And I think what's happening is that you have big business, you have... not just those in the media that are making, I guess, billions of dollars from China, but also other businesses that they really don't want to admit this is going on because if they do, they're complicit and they'll lose a lot of money.
So it's really been a chore for Falun Gong, our mutual friend, Cindy Liu, for example, and others.
It's been a real chore for them over the last quarter of a century just to convince people to listen to them because there's so many billions and billions of dollars coming into this country from communist China.

quick thing right yeah i testified in front of the congressional executive commission on china uh soon after my book came out and became this new york times bestseller um And what I list in that testimony is a whole lot of ways in which America and Americans are complicit.

Not just Americans, but people from many different countries, right? But we train some of those surgeons that actually do this, like kill people for organs.

Money is a big thing, but it's also just Let's say you're a very prominent transplantation organization, right? Like TPF, the Transplantation Society.
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