The Report Card with Nat Malkus
Jun 17, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 12 segments
The Department of Education has said it is trying to return education to the states, but what does that mean for the federal role in education and for the states expected to take on more…
Kirsten BaeslerGuest
Nat MalkusHost
So, Kirsten, you're the Assistant Secretary for the Office of Elementary and Secondary Education.

So I say I do everything kindergarten through 12th grade, Office of Elementary and Secondary Education, everything that it says in its name.

And what are the kinds of things that people might think, oh, well, Office of Elementary and Secondary Education, the Department of Education, they must be responsible for...

X. Curriculum, teaching licenses, teacher pay, all sorts of things like that.

Federal responsibility, state responsibility, then, of course, local responsibility.

So on a day-to-day basis, what is your work at OESE? That's the abbreviation, OESE.

So obviously, we work closely with the secretary's office, and she has a set of supplemental priorities.

It's basically the Office of Elementary Secondary Education is basically split into two divisions, if you will.

And for those that aren't in education or are not really education wonky, that's the funding that is appropriated by Congress on a formula basis for states to be delivered out to the state education agencies.

So, Kirsten, you're the Assistant Secretary for the Office of Elementary and Secondary Education.

So I say I do everything kindergarten through 12th grade, Office of Elementary and Secondary Education, everything that it says in its name.

And what are the kinds of things that people might think, oh, well, Office of Elementary and Secondary Education, the Department of Education, they must be responsible for...

X. Curriculum, teaching licenses, teacher pay, all sorts of things like that.

Federal responsibility, state responsibility, then, of course, local responsibility.

So on a day-to-day basis, what is your work at OESE? That's the abbreviation, OESE.

So obviously, we work closely with the secretary's office, and she has a set of supplemental priorities.

It's basically the Office of Elementary Secondary Education is basically split into two divisions, if you will.

And for those that aren't in education or are not really education wonky, that's the funding that is appropriated by Congress on a formula basis for states to be delivered out to the state education agencies.
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