Tim WarnerGuest
Josh BirkheadHost
But I want to talk about how you've moved through some of these technology generations.

When you look at the engineers coming up right now, what do you think that they're getting right about staying current and what might they be underestimating?

I think in general, not to be speaking too general, but IT professionals in my life, what they're doing right for the most part, is adopting an eternal student persona.

And to your earlier question that I never formally answered yet, sorry about the tech disruptions.

Right now, we can see in Gen AI, some professionals are jumping on top of it, looking at it as a way to help future proof their careers.

So I'm I guess now it's easier for me to ride these waves because I've got a history.

When I was new in IT, this was around the first few years of the World Wide Web and the Internet and the web.com bubble and all of that kind of stuff.

But I was a little young to be worried about getting cast out of the job market instantly.

But moving forward, other disruptions like containerization, virtualization, and the public cloud is where I think that eternal student persona really became big for IT people realizing I need to be always keeping current with the tech or I really will be left behind.

Because you can go on holiday for a week or two and come back and find yourself, wow, I need some catch up work here to get current.

There have been times I've taken two weeks off and come back and feel like I need another week just to catch up on what I missed.

In an earlier conversation with you, Tim, you mentioned some of the other things that today's engineers are getting right.

And one of those things that was interesting to me was this idea of learning in public.

I think about witnessing my own family members when I was much younger, and I mean about likely under the age of 10, Seeing the four inch manuals and training books on a shelf, right? And diving into those at length at night and learning has certainly shifted away from that approach a little bit.

But I want to talk about how you've moved through some of these technology generations.

When you look at the engineers coming up right now, what do you think that they're getting right about staying current and what might they be underestimating?

I think in general, not to be speaking too general, but IT professionals in my life, what they're doing right for the most part, is adopting an eternal student persona.

And to your earlier question that I never formally answered yet, sorry about the tech disruptions.

Right now, we can see in Gen AI, some professionals are jumping on top of it, looking at it as a way to help future proof their careers.

So I'm I guess now it's easier for me to ride these waves because I've got a history.

When I was new in IT, this was around the first few years of the World Wide Web and the Internet and the web.com bubble and all of that kind of stuff.

But I was a little young to be worried about getting cast out of the job market instantly.

But moving forward, other disruptions like containerization, virtualization, and the public cloud is where I think that eternal student persona really became big for IT people realizing I need to be always keeping current with the tech or I really will be left behind.

Because you can go on holiday for a week or two and come back and find yourself, wow, I need some catch up work here to get current.

There have been times I've taken two weeks off and come back and feel like I need another week just to catch up on what I missed.

In an earlier conversation with you, Tim, you mentioned some of the other things that today's engineers are getting right.

And one of those things that was interesting to me was this idea of learning in public.

I think about witnessing my own family members when I was much younger, and I mean about likely under the age of 10, Seeing the four inch manuals and training books on a shelf, right? And diving into those at length at night and learning has certainly shifted away from that approach a little bit.
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