Jul 16, 2026 · 30 min · 12 segments
We go way back with *New York Times* and award-winning author Daniel José Older to learn what it’s like to create in the Star Wars IP after growing up loving it. 🤩 From asking the universe for what…
Daniel José OlderGuestJordanHostHowever, you are also a completely lauded award-winning author as well.
I'm pretty sure you have a library review.
My goodness.
Is there anything that you haven't won, firstly, that our listeners shouldn't be aware of?

I haven't won a National Book Award yet or a Booker, but you know, all those things are, the future is wide open,
right? Okay.
Is that like your next goal? no yeah you're just gonna pokemon collect every award

right i try to i try to make goals things that i have some control over and you know that's a bunch of people in a room somewhere that i don't get to um mind melt so i have to just do my best my goal is to write great books
you'd think that after a career in ya so far you would have a little bit more of a voice inside of those rooms but you are actually an owlcrate author
included in 2022.
Yes.
What was that like at the time? Is that the first time that you'd ever had like a book box subscription?
so.
It

I just, I was so excited and it was really fun and I was really happy about it.
Yeah, it's fun to get a box with like all sorts of goodies and things in it alongside your book too, right?

Like, yeah, the goodies and it just feels like it takes it to a whole other level.
However, you are also a completely lauded award-winning author as well.
I'm pretty sure you have a library review.
My goodness.
Is there anything that you haven't won, firstly, that our listeners shouldn't be aware of?

I haven't won a National Book Award yet or a Booker, but you know, all those things are, the future is wide open,
right? Okay.
Is that like your next goal? no yeah you're just gonna pokemon collect every award

right i try to i try to make goals things that i have some control over and you know that's a bunch of people in a room somewhere that i don't get to um mind melt so i have to just do my best my goal is to write great books
you'd think that after a career in ya so far you would have a little bit more of a voice inside of those rooms but you are actually an owlcrate author
included in 2022.
Yes.
What was that like at the time? Is that the first time that you'd ever had like a book box subscription?
so.
It

I just, I was so excited and it was really fun and I was really happy about it.
Yeah, it's fun to get a box with like all sorts of goodies and things in it alongside your book too, right?

Like, yeah, the goodies and it just feels like it takes it to a whole other level.
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