The Next Best with Marcel Dirsus
Oct 14, 2026 · 47 min · 13 segments
Germany’s former intelligence chief has been accused of treason. Here's the full story. Important: The investigation is ongoing. The allegations have not been proven in court.
Florian FladeGuest
Marcel DirsusHost
So you already mentioned that sort of as an immediate step, the BND would assume that everything that Manfred passed on to Hanning could now be compromised, like that's the basis on which they now have to work.
Uh, and obviously they're gonna try to figure out what went wrong internally, right, with regards to the security protocol, um, and so forth.
But what do you, what else do you think is happening in the German government now? Because this is a huge scandal, and presumably at multiple levels people are kind of freaking out and trying to figure out what they should do next.
next.Um, I guess, I guess the impact, um, I guess the impact will be harder than before because it's already the second case.
I, uh, um, um, um, a person, another, another person that is, um, suspected of passing on information to a foreign intelligence service was arrested.
And, um, yeah, he is suspected of, uh, passing several internal documents to Russian intelligence, and he allegedly received €400,000 for that.
And, um, he also had someone he was allegedly working with, a, a businessman, you could say.
Someone who is, uh, who had got him in contact with the, with the Russian intelligence service.
So it's already the second case within a few years and, um, of course, there will now be a debate about internal, internal security.
Um, I think, uh, this, uh, case will again lead to the discussion, uh, about tighter security checks, the stronger internal oversight, uh, stricter rules, um, governing, of course, the activities of former intelligence officials like Mr. Hanning.
Um, so there's a huge discussion going on right now about should these person, these people be allowed at all to do security consultancy work, um, or is there-
So the, the story is, right, so this guy, I mean, German pensions are very generous.
Like, if, if you, if you've been a high-ranking civil servant, as Hanning had been-
So you already mentioned that sort of as an immediate step, the BND would assume that everything that Manfred passed on to Hanning could now be compromised, like that's the basis on which they now have to work.
Uh, and obviously they're gonna try to figure out what went wrong internally, right, with regards to the security protocol, um, and so forth.
But what do you, what else do you think is happening in the German government now? Because this is a huge scandal, and presumably at multiple levels people are kind of freaking out and trying to figure out what they should do next.
next.Um, I guess, I guess the impact, um, I guess the impact will be harder than before because it's already the second case.
I, uh, um, um, um, a person, another, another person that is, um, suspected of passing on information to a foreign intelligence service was arrested.
And, um, yeah, he is suspected of, uh, passing several internal documents to Russian intelligence, and he allegedly received €400,000 for that.
And, um, he also had someone he was allegedly working with, a, a businessman, you could say.
Someone who is, uh, who had got him in contact with the, with the Russian intelligence service.
So it's already the second case within a few years and, um, of course, there will now be a debate about internal, internal security.
Um, I think, uh, this, uh, case will again lead to the discussion, uh, about tighter security checks, the stronger internal oversight, uh, stricter rules, um, governing, of course, the activities of former intelligence officials like Mr. Hanning.
Um, so there's a huge discussion going on right now about should these person, these people be allowed at all to do security consultancy work, um, or is there-
So the, the story is, right, so this guy, I mean, German pensions are very generous.
Like, if, if you, if you've been a high-ranking civil servant, as Hanning had been-
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